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  • Only eat home cooked food , actually have been doing it since living in that fess pit[shitney], no eating out, takeaway winter time , pretty much asking for a flu if you do, especially at macdonals etc.
    ^roost

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    • Originally posted by dirtboy View Post
      100 year plague
      The odds have shortened since you quoted this 6 months ago!
      "Engine braking is for Kenworths" NP

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      • I am somewhat satisfied with my BO & Garlic Breath:-
        If you're close enough to cop a whiff ; you're too close.
        The More I Learn... The Less I Know.
        That Which Doesn't Change... Stays The Same.
        Those That Don't Fall... Just Aren't Trying Hard Enough.
        Genius or Idiot... Sadly it's Defined by the Mediocre Masses... With their Hindsight.
        Dicklaimer... The Text above is to be Evaluated by a Responsible Person... Prior to Any Action Being Taken.

        *George Carlin*What We Do*No Bravery*Tell the Truth*911*Genetic Armageddon*Carbon Tax*Interplanetary Climate Change*Fracking*Shock Doctrine*Extinction Protocol*

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        • Sooooo which one is it mask or no mask??

          https://summit.news/2020/07/31/nethe...are-pointless/

          https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...d6dd4e9e5ae464

          The great debate continues
          Ultimate power breeds ultimate corruption ^roost

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          • Originally posted by Max at the Flat View Post
            Pointless the way they're getting used in Melbourne, QLDs Jeanette Young reckons they're last ditch desperation stuff.

            Used properly in an infectuous environment they'd reduce infections.
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            Ignorance leads to confidence more often than knowledge does
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            • Originally posted by Tom68 View Post
              QLDs Jeanette Young reckons they're last ditch desperation stuff.
              Desperation? - for sure. Last Ditch? - dunno. We might need all the last ditches we can muster.

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              • Originally posted by OldManRiver View Post
                Desperation? - for sure. Last Ditch? - dunno. We might need all the last ditches we can muster.
                Well I changed her words but she says something to that effect at the end of this. She thinks a magical circle will help more though, maybe she thinks you get it via bluetooth..



                http://<a href="https://youtu.be/mmZ...mZttGsp1XA</a>
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                Ignorance leads to confidence more often than knowledge does
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                • Yeah, she's a funny old duck, this one!
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                  • If you want a big increase in your Covid video views, just put China in the title, don't even need Covid in it.


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                    Ignorance leads to confidence more often than knowledge does
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                    • Excellent article . .

                      If New Zealand’s the coronavirus role model then we’re in strife.

                      “Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing,” George Orwell wrote in Nineteen Eighty-Four.

                      If social media is any guide it is our intelligence, rather than our health, that has been dealt a heavier blow by the coronavirus pandemic and the vested interests that benefit from it. The debate about how to respond to the virus has been undermined by widespread ignorance and the plethora of fallacies that surely call for compulsory teaching of logic in schools.

                      Top consulting firm McKinsey revealed the extent of the ignorance on Tuesday in survey evidence that found young people in Australia were more than twice as worried about the coronavirus impact on their own health as those aged over 75, who are at far greater risk. Almost 40 per cent those aged 25 to 44 were “very or extremely” concerned about their health. Almost half of that group also said they had been “emotionally affected” by the pandemic, compared with 8 per cent of the over-75s.

                      In light of six months of data on the coronavirus, such beliefs make little sense. They raise serious questions about the quality of education and the insidious role some of the media have played in fuelling the biggest erosion of civil liberties in our history — without accompanying evidence or cost benefit analysis — and a recession whose long-terms impacts can only be guessed with trepidation.

                      There are almost eight billion people in the world and six months into the pandemic barely any young have died from the virus.

                      Based on Swiss data published in respected medical journal The Lancet last month, the infection fatality rate from COVID-19 for under those aged 20 to 50 is one in 10,870, or about the same as being hit by a car. Young people should be far more worried about the collapse in education, their inability to travel and enjoy their lives, and their highly diminished job opportunities and incomes that the Treasury and Productivity Commission have recently laid out.

                      For those aged up to 44, the coronavirus is less of a threat than dying from a random accident each year, according to the US National Centre for Health Statistics.

                      “Population-wide estimates of the infection fatality rate (0.64 per cent) mask great heterogeneity by age and point towards the importance of age-targeted interventions to reduce exposures among those at highest risk of death,” the Lancet authors wrote.

                      Alas, age-targeted interventions weren’t top of mind in the Victorian government, whose decision to move into stage four lockdown is an incredibly high-stakes gamble. If no vaccine emerges — or no vaccine with side effects mild enough that people are willing to take it — what is the point of another six weeks of draconian restrictions with all the attendant social and economic costs that will last years?

                      New Zealand is held out as a role model, but it’s a small, remote country. Its biggest industry, tourism, has been ruined, and at some point its citizens may want to come and go.

                      The debate is as rancorous as it is littered with fallacies; beyond trusty ad hominem, the straw man, post hoc, appeals to pity and bandwagon fallacies are the most prominent. No one seriously advocates doing nothing; indeed, individuals naturally take their own precautions, without government having to do anything except provide information.

                      The question is whether a civilisation that put man on the moon a half-century ago could have come up with a more targeted way of protecting the elderly and vulnerable than causing a downturn so serious forecasting has become impossible.

                      Indeed, with six months’ more data, reacting in August similarly to how China, Spain and Italy reacted in March — as Victoria has — surely ignores our improved knowledge and treatment since.

                      For instance, we now know that herd immunity tends to cut in at 20 per cent, not the 60 per cent feared, and certainly not 100 per cent — the favoured level of fearmongers who mindlessly multiply infection fatality rate by populations. Meanwhile, the belief A causes B simply because B comes after it in time has proved more contagious than the virus itself.

                      Observing a decline in deaths or case numbers after a government took a sledgehammer to its economy says nothing about the effectiveness. Pointing to New Zealand in rapture proves nothing.

                      In fact, there’s no reliable relationship between lockdowns and viral trajectories across countries.

                      “Full lockdowns and widespread COVID-19 testing were not associated with reductions in the number of critical cases or overall mortality,” the authors of another recent Lancet study looking at Europe and the US found.

                      Then there’s good old appeal to pity. Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews on Tuesday described the deaths of three people in their 90s and older on Tuesday as “tragedies”. He either doesn’t understand the word or has lost all sense of proportion. It should go without saying, but the chance of dying in one’s 90s is naturally elevated. In any case, what about 1.5 million deaths a year of children in Africa and Asia from vaccine-preventable diseases? They won’t be getting those vaccines in a depression.

                      That brings us to the bandwagon fallacy, thinking something is correct because everyone else seems to. Perhaps frustrated Sweden’s death toll petered out at 5700 rather than the 90,000 it was warned to expect, proponents of draconian responses say “serious long-term health effects” warrant extreme precaution. The virus has been endemic only since March; how can there be any strong evidence of long-term effects, which by definition mean years?

                      Economists have been guilty of their own bias, an obsession with gross domestic product - an obsolescent, abstract statistic with little connection to anyone’s life - to determine whether lockdowns have costs. China has enjoyed strong GDP growth, but many Chinese are incarcerated or worse if they disagree with their government. There’s more to life than GDP.

                      One could try to work out the dollar value of freedom of movement, physical association, by asking how much people would pay for it. But that somehow defeats the point. Transfixed by the supposedly existential menace of the coronavirus and the “long-term” health costs, not enough are focusing on the long-term costs that aren’t captured by GDP.
                      Time and tide . .

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                      • Thanks pk.

                        No one seriously advocates doing nothing; indeed, individuals naturally take their own precautions, without government having to do anything except provide information.

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                        • Originally posted by 380EXCQLD View Post
                          Thanks pk.
                          Yes, common sense, good personal hygiene and social awareness should be a part of everyones daily duties.

                          Sadly there are too many stupid selfish people that have no idea of the above . . . . .
                          Time and tide . .

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                          • Whoever wrote that article thinks exactly the same as me. Age targeted measures are what's needed. Proves how stupid we all are really.

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                            • Originally posted by Pete40 View Post
                              Whoever wrote that article thinks exactly the same as me. Age targeted measures are what's needed. Proves how stupid we all are really.
                              It was Adam Creighton - The Australian

                              > https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...e969f5bc626da9
                              Time and tide . .

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                              • Originally posted by Pete40 View Post
                                Whoever wrote that article thinks exactly the same as me. Age targeted measures are what's needed. Proves how stupid we all are really.
                                What would they look like Pete?

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