Introducing the CLAKE TWO

[bluerider]

Originally Posted by walks

Make something that is less strong and breaks? Doesn't use the same light pull system? Cheaper components used?

I feel this would defeat the purpose of his brand and cost the consumer in the long run.

The guys got to make some money. Think of the R&D that's gone into them and they are by all reports a high quality build.

He needs to price them so he can sell them to bike stores and they can add their mark up. If there costing him 200 to build plus overheads and R&D considered it is not unreasonable to ask a bike store to pay 350 or 400 and for the end consumer to pay $600, 60 of this goes into the government pockets.

Perhaps when they become more popular he can move production to China and half his costs and in turn we'll save a hundred bucks.

Just an alternative view point.

Well my view point is shared by alot of people i know and not clouded by a reach around sponsorship piss in his pocket deal that some on here have

I'm sorry, but not many people can afford $600 plus clams for a light pull clutch lever setup, especially when a $70 midwest mountain engineering light pull clutch lever can get most people a useable, satisfactory option although I'm sure not the "ultimate" like the "one".

The lever looks shit IMO, and everyone ive talked to about it agrees, putting it on a new model bike looks way out of place and like its been constructed from a Lego set. The "lever" I'm talking about here, get that?

Like all their products, they are priced out of the market and from what most people can afford. Drop the price and the quantities will sell.... Bit like your batteries.... From China aren't they?

[Team200]

Originally Posted by bluerider

Well my view point is shared by alot of people i know and not clouded by a reach around sponsorship piss in his pocket deal that some on here have

For the record, there is no sponsorship or pocket pissing deal between CLAKE and I. I do a bit of testing for Owen because I like the products and I like playilng with innovative technologies. I write positive reviews of the products because I like them and I enjoy writing technical reviews. I invest a considerable amount of my own time at my own cost.

Owen.

[ROBKTM]

I ran the one and never quite jelled with the toggling between clutch and brake.
Having two levers sparks my interest again as the advantages of having a LHRB are very significant.

[walks]

Originally Posted by bluerider

Well my view point is shared by alot of people i know and not clouded by a reach around sponsorship piss in his pocket deal that some on here have

I'm sorry, but not many people can afford $600 plus clams for a light pull clutch lever setup, especially when a $70 midwest mountain engineering light pull clutch lever can get most people a useable, satisfactory option although I'm sure not the "ultimate" like the "one".

The lever looks shit IMO, and everyone ive talked to about it agrees, putting it on a new model bike looks way out of place and like its been constructed from a Lego set. The "lever" I'm talking about here, get that?

Like all their products, they are priced out of the market and from what most people can afford. Drop the price and the quantities will sell.... Bit like your batteries.... From China aren't they?

I am in no way affiliated with Clake, i don't even have one yet.

I am talking purely in theory and from a business perspective and i am speculating as to the actual cost and overheads etc.

It would be good if he could make them cheaper maybe it's not possible. Maybe when they start selling in the US we will be able to get them for half price from RMATV

Yes my batteries are made in China, just about everything is these days. Problem is you need quantity and the cash flow behind you to make it possible.

As for the look of the lever i don't really care what it looks like, its how functional it is and the benifits associated. I've been riding with guys that wont ride their bike up a tricky hill because they know that they will more than likely scratch up their awesome sticker kit and plastics when they come off. IMO that is not what riding is all about. It's like taking the fat chick home over the hot one. The fat chick will always perform better and do things that the other one won't.

[Bushmechanic]

I think there is a market for a really dumbass solenoid to pull the clutch in when the engine speed drops below 1000rpm

2 overrides, one in the clutch lever (turns the system off) and a push button on the LHS (pulls the clutch in)

for soft fairies who like playing with the clutch a normal hydraulic clutch with a longer lever or one of those Midwest blingy things. I welded 40mm onto my oem lever its like a KTM85. no Lego it looks like Chinese mecano

the solenoid or servo would be hidden so could look like a space turd and if you use one already in production it could be very cheap.

[80diesel4play]

I run a rekluse lhrb setup. Nuff said. I like the solenoid idea but think it will drain maximum potato from my vortex

[Bushmechanic]

run on engine oil pressure, expensive model could be power steering assist for the clutch plus anti stall override at low rpm

or we could harvest the vortex energy created behind a dr650 and infuse it in potatoes in some socks hung in the airbox

[Tom68]

Originally Posted by Bushmechanic

I think there is a market for a really dumbass solenoid to pull the clutch in when the engine speed drops below 1000rpm

Injected bikes could run an IAC valve to keep the motor running, only thing is it'd make it like my XR500, pig just keeps going whether you want it to or not.

[bluerider]

Originally Posted by walks

As for the look of the lever i don't really care what it looks like, its how functional it is and the benifits associated. I've been riding with guys that wont ride their bike up a tricky hill because they know that they will more than likely scratch up their awesome sticker kit and plastics when they come off. IMO that is not what riding is all about. It's like taking the fat chick home over the hot one. The fat chick will always perform better and do things that the other one won't.

You can have all the fat chicks to yourself, i will take the risk that the hot one won't let me hang from the ceiling.

As for the look, its important to alot of people unfortunately or not, to sell products, take it or leave it - it is people's opinion. Was it part of a factor you buying a 6 dayz, even if only a small part? For the ooh ahh factor? Take one look at my bike and you will realise not one mod is for look. But that lever could be done ALOT better, especially for 600+ clams.

Bushie - If you road the shit we ride on the east coast i can almost garuantee you will be keen for a nice light pull clutch if you can get it

[Krackers]

Perhaps if Clake moved their production to China the price would be affordable to more people.

I still wouldn't buy one though.. When I finally get back on my Honda I can't wait to foot stomp my rear brake in the carpark.

I'd actually like to know though, are there many pro level world riders who use things like Rekluses and Clakes etc?