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Old 09-03-2018
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Or rev it harder...

I had some spooge until I did 5 laps of a grass track. When I stopped there was a dry exhaust and smoke for a while.

I think the bikes ridden in the bush just don't get the exhaust hot enough to burn the oil out of the packing.
Exactly... and having a big can with a lot of surface area just adds to the issues.
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The one on the Tm was just as long, but I think the core size was a bit bigger as it had more of a bark. Definitely no spooge on that beast.. and I didnít ride it hard!
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I noticed more spooge when I was riding it harder yesterday - hence my supposition that it has bonus fuel right through the rev range.

It's at 50/1 with Motul 700 in 98 (98 is recommended by GG). 700 doesn't have a particularly high flash point & it's a great oil from experience for trail riding.

Not too worried, so for now, I'll drop the needle & keep a/s fiddling..
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The crankcase can build up with excess oil when doing slower tracks and when you get on the mainjet hard,all the oil comes out and can't completly burn and excess spooge comes out but your jetting can be near perfect.
If you stop quickly after this and wipe the spooge off with a rag then keep riding on the mainjet you will probably find no more spooge comes out unless your mainjet is to big.
Most the spooge comes from warm up when the motor and pipe are not up to temperature so you get an incomplete burn even on a correctly jetted bike. If you try and jet this out you will be to lean once the bike is heaverly loaded.
Your description sounds like your jetting is close. You could try necw#3 (nedw#2.5) if you find nedw#2 a touch lean or use a 1/2 clip shim washer and make sure you use a spacer to stop the needle binding in the holder.
40 pilot is definately better then 42 now with temps hot?
Motul 710 is a good oil and similar to motul 800 but has 20% solvent added for easier mixing and for Oi use. The base oil in 710 will be similar to 800's flashpoint so it will be similar in the crankcase.
So a 50:1 premix using motul 710 is the same oil content as 62.5:1 premix using motul 800.
This is where using flashpoint for spooge control can be a bit misleading. The solvent may help with a more complete burn but it gets separated from the oil once in the crankcase.
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Gibnut is .75 the GG recommended plug gap? Must have a good ignition for .75mm as ktm recommend only .6mm,which i hate as the electrode isn't parallel.
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Gibnut is .75 the GG recommended plug gap? Must have a good ignition for .75mm as ktm recommend only .6mm,which i hate as the electrode isn't parallel.
Yes, Cluffie - 0.7mm/0.8mm is factory spec.
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Yes, Cluffie - 0.7mm/0.8mm is factory spec.
Thats great,i like.
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I threw a 40 in mine yesterday, it comes on song very quickly now! Still a tiny amount of dribble, we were moving along at a fair clip in the rocky sh!t, having a great time! I launched up one double step up and came a good metre off the seat... was a interesting trip! It is probably in between where I want it. A 41 pilot if there was such a thing would be perfect. Iíll probably just leave it as is and wind the POV preload in half a turn. So stoked with this bike!! 🤘
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Dropped the needle back to #2 after a mega-spooge-a-thon yesterday. It was a mostly slow, rocky, hot & humid ride. The Gasser had a tiny hesitation right off idle, too. I could ignore it, but apparently I'm a Type-A personality, borderline OCD (undiagnosed, except from a riding buddy..) Virgo star sign - ain't gonna happen..

I tried an NECJ in my Beta RR250 & it was poo - lean & snatchy with the dreaded soft mid-range. Is there another needle anyone could recommend that's a touch leaner than an NEDW #3 that will still give fat bottom end powah, but not leave the Exxon-Valdez under my silencer? Please don't tell me to sack up & rev the bike - I did that a bit yesterday. The bike doesn't seem to load up & need clearing out. Haven't fouled a plug yet & the last time I pulled it for a squiz it looked great.

While I wait for Jakobi to fix my problems, I'll leave the NEDW #2 in there for a bit & report back in a few rides. If it suddenly cools off in Sydney (come on, Autumn, ffs!) & the bike starts pinging it's jubblies off, well, then I'll know it's lean. However, with mostly tech s/t at relatively low speeds, not much wot & 40p & 172m onboard, it would be unlikely to get seriously lean due to a drop of a couple of degrees C, no?

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Necw#3 = nedw#2.5. Necw is exactly the same starting diameter as nedw but 1/2 leaner on the clip so it's handy to have.
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