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Old 29-08-2018
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2019 WP XPlor forks

From most reports I've read the 17' and 18' XPlor forks have almost zero adjustability with the compression clicker.

Have they addressed this problem on the 2019 models?
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"Unfortunately, the compression adjuster on the XPlor does very little to change low-speed damping. If you crank the adjuster all the way in, the high-speed damping will feel much stiffer but the low-speed will barely change. This is because the adjuster does not directly affect the base valve."

As quoted by a suspension tuner

Same on the 2019's? Can't find any info yet, maybe too early
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I've been searching for the same type of feedback, nothing of substance showing up yet.
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If the 4CS disaster is anything to go by, KTM have surely figured out that they can build a bike with ShizenHousen suspension and the public will still lap them up whilst paying top dollar, with the proviso that they get most of the other things right, or as close to as possible.

It would appear that their mass-produced suspension is where they are scrimping and cutting corners
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Are there any online parts diagrams to look at?

It seems to my non-expert mind that the way the 2017/18 Xplor compression adjustment works, it will never offer a useful range of adjustment. Unless the new parts are obviously, significantly different, then I reckon you can assume that the 19 adjusters will be just as helpful as the old ones.
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I'll post up images of the parts fiche for respective years Nathan
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5 48600458 SPACER 43X35X1,5 $34.90
5 48600456 SPACER 43X35X2,5 $46.50
5 48600457 SPACER 43X35X5 $46.50
6 48601631S SCREW CAP M51X 1,5 REB. CPL. x1 $358.60
7 48601844S Screw cap M51x1,5 compression cpl.x1 $141.20

8 R14033 SCREW CAP SMALL PART KIT x1 $48.80
9 48600048 O-RING NBR 46 X 2 x2 $6.55
10 R14046 SEALING KIT x1 $159.70
11 R14063 FORK REP. KIT 48MM OFFROAD x1 $159.70
12 48600763S1 PIPE&THREADED SLEEVE WITH HOLE x1 $303.10
13 48600763S2 PIPE & THREADED SLEEVE x1 $303.10
14 48600430 DU BUSH FOR PISTON ROD x2 $6.50
15 48601843S Tap compression cpl. x1 $116.30
16 40540486 NUT M6X0,5 REBOUND x1 $6.95
17 48600575S1 Piston cpl. x1 $57.55
18 48600382 SHUTTLE VALVE SPRING C=0,4 x1 $6.55
19 48600576 PISTON ROD REBOUND x1 $27.45
20 48600299 O-RING 6X1,2 NBR x1 $7.55
21 48600578S SPRING REBOUND + SPRING GUIDE x2 $51.15
22 48601298 SPRING SUPPORT x2 $81.45
23 48600277S ADJUSTING NEEDLE CPL. x1 $16.85
24 48601558S COMPRESSION ADJ. NEEDLE CPL. x1 $17.30
25 48600568 PISTON ROD D=12 L=554 ALU x2 $200.30
26 48601786 ADJUSTING PIPE x2 $43.45
27 48601556S HYDR. STOP L200 31,9 CPL.07 x2 $83.55
28 48600163 CHECK VALVE NUT M6X0,5 D=2 x2 $13.95
29 48600202 SPRING CHECK VALVE D=0,7 x2 $5.95
30 48600047S PISTON + O-RING x2 $40.15
31 48601553S SCREW CAP OC SPLIT CPL. x2 $53.30
32 04500003 O-RING 11X2,5 NBR 70 SH PTFE x2 $7.55
33 48601702 washer 27,5x33x0,3 x2 $35.35
34 0025 080256 HH COLLAR SCREW M8X25 TX40 x2 $3.70
99 48601166S1 FORK OIL SAE4 5L x1 $203.10


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5 R14026 SPRING SPACER KIT x1 $53.55
6 48601631S SCREW CAP M51X 1,5 REB. CPL. x1 $358.60
7 48601844S Screw cap M51x1,5 compression cpl.x1 $141.20
8 R14033 SCREW CAP SMALL PART KIT x1 $48.80
9 48600048 O-RING NBR 46 X 2 x2 $6.55
10 R14046 SEALING KIT x1 $159.70
11 R14047 REP. KIT GUIDE BUSHINGS x1 $61.05
14 48600430 DU BUSH FOR PISTON ROD x2 $6.50
16 40540486 NUT M6X0,5 REBOUND x1 $6.95
18 48600382 SHUTTLE VALVE SPRING C=0,4 x1 $6.55
19 48600576 PISTON ROD REBOUND x1 $27.45
20 48600299 O-RING 6X1,2 NBR x1 $7.55
21 48600578S SPRING REBOUND + SPRING GUIDE x2 $51.15
22 48601298 SPRING SUPPORT x2 $81.45
23 48600277S ADJUSTING NEEDLE CPL. x1 $16.85
24 48601558S COMPRESSION ADJ. NEEDLE CPL. x1 $17.30
25 48600568 PISTON ROD D=12 L=554 ALU x2 $200.30
26 48601786 ADJUSTING PIPE x2 $43.45
27 48601556S HYDR. STOP L200 31,9 CPL.07 x2 $83.55
28 48600163 CHECK VALVE NUT M6X0,5 D=2 x2 $13.95
29 48600202 SPRING CHECK VALVE D=0,7 x2 $5.95
31 48601553S SCREW CAP OC SPLIT CPL. x1 $53.30
32 04500003 O-RING 11X2,5 NBR 70 SH PTFE x2 $7.55
33 48601702 washer 27,5x33x0,3 x2 $35.35
34 0025 080256 HH COLLAR SCREW M8X25 TX40 x4 $3.70
99 48601166S1 FORK OIL SAE4 5L x1 $203.10
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If the 4CS disaster is anything to go by, KTM have surely figured out that they can build a bike with ShizenHousen suspension and the public will still lap them up whilst paying top dollar, with the proviso that they get most of the other things right, or as close to as possible.



It would appear that their mass-produced suspension is where they are scrimping and cutting corners


Even if KTM bikes came out with kYB suspension and then you will have the perfect bike, people will still complain about something.

Imo the Xplore Suspansion is good , you have to make sure you get the right spring rates, and they work great, definitely no 4cs fork.


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Is it unreasonable to expect the clickers to offer proper adjustability? Given that they're advertised as such...

That's my gripe
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If I make 2 clicks adjustments on comp OR reb at separate times I can feel the difference.


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