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Old 31-05-2019
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I have a Bell Moto 8 that rusted the metal retainers exactly the same . They must be stainless steel to last .
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I have a Bell Moto 8 that rusted the metal retainers exactly the same . They must be stainless steel to last .
Damn. How old was the helmet when that happened? Since posting the vid I've had guys saying they had the same thing happen to Airoh, Fox, Just 1 and Leatt helmets. But no reports of the top shelf helmets yet....

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It was about 3 yrs old when they rusted out , I was riding most weekends with that helmet. I have a old Bell moto 5 that has stainless steel retailers and they are still in perfect shape . I believe newer helmets are not made to last as long , itís a sales thing I imagine. I have a Fox V2 now and itís not showing any rust yet , maybe a wipe with WD40 to prevent any rusting might be the go or removing sweaty liners after each ride .
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It was about 3 yrs old when they rusted out , I was riding most weekends with that helmet. I have a old Bell moto 5 that has stainless steel retailers and they are still in perfect shape . I believe newer helmets are not made to last as long , itís a sales thing I imagine. I have a Fox V2 now and itís not showing any rust yet , maybe a wipe with WD40 to prevent any rusting might be the go or removing sweaty liners after each ride .
Damn. When I first reported on Airoh and Suomy helmet brackets rusting through I've had guys reporting the same thing on a pile of other brands.

I checked through a few helmet standards and could find nothing about the brackets needing to be made of stainless steel so it seems to be a weak point for the helmet standards allowing manufacturers to use crap materials.
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That is an amazingling dangerous failure for a helmet to have, I'm surprised it's not something that would require a recall by law ?
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Seven months after emailing Suomy's head office about these chin strap failures I still have not received an answer.

However an concerned USA dealer did investigate this and collaborated with the USA distributor and responded as per below....


In collaboration with the US master importer of Suomy helmets, Speed Addicts has completed a inquiry into Suomy off road helmet anchor plates. Our findings thus far corroborate with earlier statements provided by the Suomy factory. Those statements were previously shared with you via email and on your YouTube comments section.

2011-2012 - Bell Shape, Flat, Material Unknown, 0 Failures Reported in the USA
This first production run used a flat bell shaped anchor. No failures have been reported on helmets from 2011-2012. Testing was not possible.

2013 - Nov 2014 - Triangle Shape, Flat, Aluminium, 3 Failures Reported and Replaced in the USA
We have obtained and tested the flat triangle shaped anchors plates from helmets between 2013 - Nov 2014. The XRF Analyzer produced a clear match for Aluminum (see photos attached). Three failures were reported and replaced in the USA.

2015+ - Bell Shape, Stepped, 303 Stainless Steel, 0 Failures Reported in the USA
According to Suomy the change from aluminium to the bell shaped 303 stainless plates took place between Nov and Dec of 2014. The helmet closest to the change date we could obtain was June 2015, this helmet did in fact have the bell shaped 303 stainless anchors; confirmed by XRF Analyzer (photos attached). We checked many helmets between the June 2015 helmet and our most recent shipments in 2019. All helmets checked beyond the June 2015 helmet were fitted with the new 303 stainless anchors. This included the new MX Speed model.

Barry's Questions:
What was the original metal used for earlier helmets? And in certain cases why did this rust so quickly?

The corrosion seems isolated to helmets produced between 2013 - 2014 with the aluminium anchor plates. The three helmets affected and collected in the USA showed signs of heavy use. To date it is estimated 15,000 Suomy MX Jumps were sold in the USA and only three failures reported.

Was a recall issued, or any public advisory notice published? If not, why not?

To our knowledge no advisory was published. If I had to speculate as to why it would be a timing issue as Suomy was in transition. It seems the aluminium plates started being used before Suomy was sold and production moved to the KYT factory in Indonesia. The change to 303 stainless plates came after the sale and production was moved.

Any customer in the USA whom is still using a Suomy off road helmet produced between 2013 - 2014 is welcome to contact Speed Addicts to arrange and inspection (cs@speedaddicts.com or 866-573-2820). If they are outside the USA they should contact their local dealer or distributor.

When was the change to quality stainless steel brackets made, and which specific grade has been used?

Suomy changed to 303 stainless steel between Nov-Dec 2014. Speed Addicts has verified this change and material through XRF testing.

Does Suomy only cover failure of these brackets for the warranty period? Or for the lifetime of the helmet?

Speed Addicts and Suomy do not want anyone wearing a helmet they think might be affected by this issue. If you're currently wearing a Suomy off road helmet produced between 2013-2014 please contact Speed Addicts to arrange an inspection. Despite being past the warranty period and perhaps useful life we will assist any customer whom is currently riding in a Suomy helmet with the triangle shaped aluminium anchor plates.

Attached to this email you will find images of the anchor plates referenced, helmets tested, and XRF results.

Per my answers above Speed Addicts is willing to field any questions or concerns from customers inside the USA. International customers should reach out to their local dealers for assistance. If they do not receive the proper attention Speed Addicts can assist them with contacting their local distributor.

If you should have more questions or require clarification by email or phone I'm at your service. Please accept my apologies for the delay in providing these answers. Although Speed Addicts deeply cares about our customers we are a small operation with limited resources.

Suomy MX Speed

The Suomy MX Speed is now in stock. Suomy's added MIPS while keeping the same weight as the Jump at 2.6 lbs for a size large. At $400 we find it a very solid offering for someone interested in a light weight enduro or motocross helmet. In 2019 Suomy sponsored the Rock River Yamaha Supercross Team. The tree man team used the Jump and MX Speed for the duration of the 2019 indoor and outdoor season, rider feedback was very positive.

The fit is similar to the Jump, with that in mind please provide me with the size you or your test rider requires along with your shipping address. Our distributor is going to cover the cost, you may consider it a warranty replacement for your Jump that failed.

Best Regards,
Schad VanLeeuwen
Speed Addicts
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