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Iv tried looking it up but canít find anything on this brand as a spoke Torque Wrench .


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Their bike tool range is under the Bikeservice brand.

Wrench info is here http://www.bikeservice.com.tw/product/detail/202?cid=7

We can do them to DBW members for $130.
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Save your cash, they don't work.

Any first year apprentice mechanic can tell you that ALL torque specs are for LUBRICATED threads in good condition.

For building new wheels they're great. On wheels with 20+ hours they're a wank. Folks see factory mechanics use them but they're tweaking new product.

You'll end up with loose spokes and damaged wheels as the torque wrench confuses thread binding stiction with elastic pre-load.

Anyone using a spoke torque wrench on used wheels should just get a T-shirt printed saying "I am a dickhead", it'd be way cheaper and achieve the same result.
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Save your cash, they don't work.



Any first year apprentice mechanic can tell you that ALL torque specs are for LUBRICATED threads in good condition.



For building new wheels they're great. On wheels with 20+ hours they're a wank. Folks see factory mechanics use them but they're tweaking new product.



You'll end up with loose spokes and damaged wheels as the torque wrench confuses thread binding stiction with elastic pre-load.



Anyone using a spoke torque wrench on used wheels should just get a T-shirt printed saying "I am a dickhead", it'd be way cheaper and achieve the same result.


Lol, can I order a size large T-shirt please


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Any first year apprentice mechanic can tell you that ALL torque specs are for LUBRICATED threads in good condition.
which makes them great for fresh spokes/nipples while wheel building/truing.
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I'm with the Nut:

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http://www.dirtbikeworld.net/forum/s...05&postcount=4
http://www.dirtbikeworld.net/forum/s...1&postcount=18
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quote = Nutty:- But... they used a torque wrench, usually to over-tighten the wheel assembly because;
they're applying OEM torque specs to a cobbled up assembly full of increased tensile strength but decreased elasticity components
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Sounds like Fishing to me, nar really; crap fish spring-scale for the Big-One that got away.
Not to mention the size, quality & durability of that-their Tackle; or the/some lack thereof.
Why people imagine money is an excuse for no-brains; it's Humanity: I find our/all amusing.
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which makes them great for fresh spokes/nipples while wheel building/truing.
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...For building new wheels they're great...
That was in the post Jay...

p.s. They're still useless with fresh spokes and nipples and a USED rim. Really, any qualified bike mechanic has no need of them. I don't know where mine is...
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Save your cash, they don't work.

Any first year apprentice mechanic can tell you that ALL torque specs are for LUBRICATED threads in good condition.

For building new wheels they're great. On wheels with 20+ hours they're a wank. Folks see factory mechanics use them but they're tweaking new product.

You'll end up with loose spokes and damaged wheels as the torque wrench confuses thread binding stiction with elastic pre-load.

Anyone using a spoke torque wrench on used wheels should just get a T-shirt printed saying "I am a dickhead", it'd be way cheaper and achieve the same result.
Hehe, somebody had to say it, I could never have been so colourful.


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That was in the post Jay...

p.s. They're still useless with fresh spokes and nipples and a USED rim. Really, any qualified bike mechanic has no need of them. I don't know where mine is...
Glad I'm not a qualified mechanic, I'll keep on using mine when I build a wheel or buy a new bike

Mine also has a 1/4" drive ratchet head, so you can use it as a conventional low value torque wrench if you wish, but I didn't buy it for that, thats what the 1/4 drive WB is for.
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Glad I'm not a qualified mechanic, I'll keep on using mine when I build a wheel or buy a new bike ...
Your call. All the armchair experts said my hand-built (no torque wrench!) bog-stock Honda rims would explode doing big-gap jumps. After the third world record with the wheels showing no sign of failure at all they began to question the engineering in their $2000 wheelsets.

What do you get for $2000?
No engineering data whatsoever
No destructive or non-destructive testing whatsoever
No cross testing of various components compatibility
But... they used a torque wrench, usually to over-tighten the
wheel assembly because they're applying OEM torque specs to a cobbled up assembly full of increased tensile strength but decreased elasticity components.

So many riders have been hurt indirectly by torque wrenches. They're no replacement for experience and a tradesmans hand.

One of these wretched devices almost killed my boy. Factory JGR motor, ex-JGR, ex-MC mechanic. My boys life dependent on an up-shift at 165km/h in the pitch dark on a damp runway. I did a final check of the bike to find the shifter is loose.

I question the mechanic. "It can't be loose, I went over everything with the torque wrench" Yeah right. Grippy Ti bolt + closing torque of spine-clasp not added to the spec could've been fatal. I fixed it with Loctite and an educated hand. The mechanic was physically sick and never wrenched for a top-line rider again AFAIK.

You lads can do whatever you like with spoke torque wrenches, I've learned they're more trouble than they're worth (26 Schooners. )
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Been using the old one finger routine then a pitch check and seems to work ..

Anyone used a chromatic guitar tuner to measure / compare the pitch ??
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