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Old 13-06-2018
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Review: Klaus Mueller's Australian Trail Tours in the high country

At first I looking forward to this five day tour of the high country with Klaus Mueller from Australian Trail Tours. But then I read all the negative feedback on this DBW thread.

Injured riders being forced to continue riding. No EPIRB or support vehicle to rescue injured riders. Broken down bikes left behind for owners to rescue later. Riders being yelled at or having things thrown at them. It was shaping up to be a very different trip to the norm!

Thankfully there are a few good points though with Australian Trail Tours. The lack of support vehicles and fewer support staff means these tours are cheaper. The accommodation was good quality, so was the food. Also Klaus Mueller did not yell or throw food at anyone on this trip. A few guys said at 76 years old Klaus is more relaxed now. And the fact remains there are guys who go back again. About half the guys in our group rated it as a positive experience and a few of those guys had even done multiple trips with him.

The negative parts of the high country trip with Klaus Mueller? The lack of support is still true. There was a car that took our luggage to the next stop but no backup four wheel drive. Klaus said hurt riders would be doubled out of the forest by another rider. We assumed a badly injured rider would just become the responsibility of the SES. No EPIRB or any communication devices so we figured it could take a while if needing to ride far enough to get phone reception to contact emergency services.

Many of us were expecting a dirt ride with Australian Trail Tours, but we mostly stayed on easy fire trails and never did any of the reportedly amazing single track throughout the high country. And some days featured a lot of road too. One day we did 140km of highway with a lot of disgruntled dirt riders wearing their knobbies out.

Probably the most interesting part of Australian Trail Tours was having our bikes dragged down the road by Klaus! Each night in the high country we locked our bikes to Klaus' trailer, but on the fourth day he forgot and dragged them an unknown distance when driving to the petrol station. Total damage came to $2900 in replacement parts but Klaus Mueller said it wasn't his responsibility. After a few, er, discussions, he did give the other rider a $200 goodwill gesture at the end of the trip. The other rider was not happy with this and after several months of correspondence and legal pressure Klaus finally gave him a further $470 toward the repairs.

I had to give my loan bike back damaged and the owner absolutely refused to accept any money from me for repairs. It certainly livened up the trip but it remains to be seen if this bike dragging will become a regular feature of the high country tours. To read the full story and other complications it's all on the Dirtriderz forum here.

If you are looking for a budget tour of the high country then Klaus Mueller's Australian Trail Tours do provide this option and the accommodation is excellent. Just don't get injured, and make sure your bike doesn't break down as you'll have to rescue it yourself!

Otherwise find one of the excellent fully supported tours which also do the excellent single tracks that Klaus avoids. And of course there are plenty of maps and GPS files for the high country, it's quite easy to tee up your own ride and do it far cheaper. If you are thinking of doing any tour, I'd suggest going through this checklist first!
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Not having an EPIRB and/or a sat phone is laughable in this day and age.

An EPRIB is a great addition for the average trailrider, let alone a bloody tour operator.

What a knob.
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Old 13-06-2018
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What a knob.
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Partial Quote Michaelf: ".. people who fully biased one way or the other are just missing out...".
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Old 14-06-2018
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Sounds like a busted arse show to me. No back up vehicle, sat phone or EPIRP is totally unacceptable and not paying for damage to bike due totally to his fault is just a joke. I'd never go on his tour after reading that.
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In fact I think if it wasn't for the guys that were faster than us we would have won.
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Wow, what an arse.
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You blokes have all got it too good

Talk about a pack of whining nancy-boys. Harden up fellas. Klaus sounds grouse. Although I am glad it wasn't my bike he dragged along. Might have had a word with the old fella.

Youse will all be lucky if you're still riding at 76 yrs old.
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I ve only ever heard good things about his tours

But really surprised he is aloud to operate and insurance covers him without Sat phone or back up

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