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Old 16-01-2017
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Space saving welding table

I'm pretty stocked with my new table and thought it was worth sharing as it's a bit different to others I've seen so far.

After I welded the table top together from "Tab and Slot", I was able to utilise the top to make up my custom legs. Notice the washer behind the stop on the left hand side, that's how far out of square I started, to end up square after the welds cooled.



Here it is tucked away into the shelving with my bike rolled up against it, like it's not even there.



And without the bike.



Pull it out, lock the wheels and it's good to go.

Note the simplicity of the wheels. All the wheels I had seen have a plate with 4 holes which you would have to match and weld to the base. With these wheels I bought from a castor wheel place, all they have is a hole for a bolt to go through. 10 times easier to mount and 10 times neater as well.

I had to use a ring spanner in the square tube and remove the wheel to do up the bolt.




Here is my fairly simple torch stand that took a few versions and as many hours to make, but I needed to play with my new table and welder anyway. And there is my modded clamp that works with the table's holes. To create the lip on the left hand side that locks under the 1/4 inch plate, I offset it in the lathe on the 4-jaw. The right hand side was sitting over the hole so I added some weld and fine tuned with a file.

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Old 17-01-2017
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Very nice

I've seen the CertiFlat table kits at Machinery House but they are a bit pricey for my needs..... or is this something different?
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Old 17-01-2017
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Certiflat and "Tab and Slot" are one and the same. And yes it was a bit pricey, $1089 just for the top, no legs, and I had to put it together and weld it myself.

The cheaper version with only 50mm ribs has some pros compared to my one. The first ribs is 50mm in, so you can easily clamp down something with just a pair of locking pliers for a quick weld or grind on the edge of the table.

The 50mm ribs would be much easier for reaching under to do up a nut with the fixturing system too.

But with my modded clamp I don't need to reach under at all, so I'll definitely make up some more clamps just like it. My one is 6.3mm thick steel, while the cheaper one is only 4.8.

Also with the 150mm sides I can add "Wings" to increase the bench size, which is what I plan to do. I can only add an extra 300mm to one end which will give me 1500 x 600, which isn't too bad for the space I have to work with.
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Old 29-01-2017
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Ian9toes

I saw your pipe guard on your bike. Did you build it yourself?
I like the open design but it still looks like it is protecting in all the important places. Nice table ;-)
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Old 29-01-2017
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Great work mate, innovative, well done.
Ooh I've been drooling over the Certiflat table for a while now, Jody on welding tips and tricks uses one occasionally and it looks great, especially for repetition work.

Have you seen the 3-way vices at Hare & Forbes? CLICK
Probably not necessary for you now but I have one of those and 2 of the 2-wav versions and I find them handy.
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Old 30-01-2017
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Thanks for posting. Always good to see brains and hands working together.
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Old 03-02-2017
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Ian9toes

I saw your pipe guard on your bike. Did you build it yourself?
I like the open design but it still looks like it is protecting in all the important places. Nice table ;-)
No, I bought online from South Africa, at the time it seemed like pipe protection was a cultural thing where most people hear didn't care too much for it, but over there they all embraced it.

I made one out of mild steel once, it was a lot of mucking around and not too hard to bend for something that weighed about 4kg's.

If I have a go at making another one I'll get some kind of bender first. It's more tempting now I have a decent welder.
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Old 03-02-2017
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Great work mate, innovative, well done.
Ooh I've been drooling over the Certiflat table for a while now, Jody on welding tips and tricks uses one occasionally and it looks great, especially for repetition work.

Have you seen the 3-way vices at Hare & Forbes? CLICK
Probably not necessary for you now but I have one of those and 2 of the 2-wav versions and I find them handy.
I don't have one of those clamps but they do look handy, you can never have too many clamps.

I now have three (more to come) modified clamps like the one pictured earlier which make life so easy they go in any hole and I don't have to reach under the table. And now I'm using anti-spatter spray and argoshield light, I don't get all the holes clogged up...

Jody also uses another brand of table that Hare and Forbes also stock but they cost a fortune. They have grooves/brakes in the table that look very annoying.

I love Jody's channel, there's one vid where he talks about his career, he even worked in an aircraft factory and spent time in the lab area testing stuff. He knows his stuff, and presents it well.
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Thanks for posting. Always good to see brains and hands working together.
Cheers mate, I thought some folk might enjoy it, I know I would if the shoe was on the other foot, and I haven't seen one quite like it on the net before.

Most people go for heavy duty which I don't need, but I could always add temporary legs if I ever want to beef it up for some reason.

One downside worth mentioning is the rubber wheels. Although they roll beautifully, and the one bolt mounting system is awesome, I wonder if I should have gone with a nylon (I think) version instead of the rubber.

Beacause the table is getting used for everything, I notice the rubber tends to give a bit when filing.

As far as the one sided support goes though I have no problem there. There is so much inertia/weight in the table top that even if I use a centre punch on the cantilevered side it feels just as solid as the supported side.
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Old 03-02-2017
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I have a question for you welders. A welder on my jobsite suggested I use 0.6 wire for what I'm doing (mostly 2mm square tube), so I ordered some new rollers that turned up today.

I think one of the rollers is a Friday afternoon special. They both have two grooves to accommodate both 0.6 and 0.8, but on one of them there is no decernable difference, and it's the 0.8 size that it seems to have two of. The wire doesn't sit proud of the roller so only one of the rollers is doing anything.

Did I get a dud or what?
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