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Old 11-12-2018
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Along with a bunch of other people, I rode the 200RR on the weekend.

Loved it.
LOVED IT.

Think "strong 125 with more grunt" and you will be close.

It is basically exactly how I want a 200 power delivery to be, and it even coped with being significantly over-geared (15T front sprocket - feels like it would be happiest with a 14T).

Compared to a typical 125, it has more bottom end, broader power/less hit, and revs out about as well. Also has an eagerness to pick up revs like a good 125.

Compared to my competition model KDX200 (FMF pipe, Boyesen RAD valve), it vibrates much less, is way more rev happy, and the power delivery is smoother. The Beta definitely makes more top end power too.

Compared to my WR200 powered YZ125 (FMF pipe & muffler, big YZ airbox), the Beta sounds much tighter, vibrates less (the WR has a counter-balancer) and is just stronger everywhere in the rev range. Similar electric power delivery on both bikes, but the Beta would eat the WR alive and doesn't sign off as early.

Ergos are great. Usual Beta thing where the pegs are close to the seat but the bike doesn't feel cramped. Feels like the bigger Betas to sit on, but slimmer and it really does feel like a 125 to chuck around - most 200s feel lighter than 250s but do feel heavier than a 125 (who would have guessed!!).
Without having a 125 to directly compare, it was very hard to imagine the 125 feeling lighter.

The track we rode on was rock hard and covered with loose rocks and dust, plus I'm probably 15-20kg heavier than it was designed for, so I am cautious of saying anything about the suspension beyond "it seemed fine". Certainly no obvious vices in those conditions.

The only reason I haven't bought one is that I then went and stuffed my knee (no, not on the 200) and can't ride for about a year. But I do plan on buying the first 2020 model that makes it to Australia.
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you gave the 480 the same amount of throttle as the 200 Nath?
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you gave the 480 the same amount of throttle as the 200 Nath?
Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what happened.
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Surprised to hear that the 200rr had a strong top end. A report i read said the top was nothing like a 125/150 and was a bit soft.
All the better if this is the case. My kids are both on ktm 150's now but another option for juniors is great news now that ktm deserted us.

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Surprised to hear that the 200rr had a strong top end. A report i read said the top was nothing like a 125/150 and was a bit soft.
All the better if this is the case. My kids are both on ktm 150's now but another option for juniors is great news now that ktm deserted us.

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I haven't ridden any of the newer KTM125s, so they might be better.
But compared to a YZ125, the difference is smaller than I can notice.

Now that I think about it, I guess it's possible that the too tall gearing skewed my opinion. But it definitely revs further than the KDX. The WR has more over-rev than the KDX but is definitely making less power than the RR.
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Anyone actually bought one of these yet?
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I'm interested in how the Sherco 125's go, i'm going on a ride next weekend & a rider has 1, so i'll be having a good look @ how it goes
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Anyone actually bought one of these yet?
Just spoke to a mate who did. He loves it. Everything you read about them is true apparently. I might get a ride soon. Italian crap I am used to. I've had a few. Looking forward to it.
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Took a while to get that ride. Great bike. It is true, it could be a 250 with the torque it has. Bike does feel heavy compared to my KTM 250 though, but I feel that with all Betas. It'll go when you want it to. And it'll lug when you want it to. Seems a big gap from 1st to 2nd gear (internally). That might be sorted with a rear cog change.

Feels not quite as nimble as my 250 as it is harder to tip side to side for the first 10 of lean.

Overall the bike felt good. It'd be a bike you could really learn to love.

Clutch was heavy as all F. We put a One on it. Sorted for my weak left hand.

Front end was ok, rear needed sorting. We set the sag and all the clickers to one third out, but it was too late for me to try it. Next time.

Not sure I'd sell the Freeride to buy one. Need an all day ride on it.
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