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Nothing wrong with WR250. Safe bet. I'm surprised there is 3k difference. For a trail rider that can come across any type of ride and do it easy, still think 350 is king. I'd go 250 over 450 if that was my choice as I'm not fit enough or trail blaze enough for one. I have a 300 2T btw and don't really recommend it for the average man for any/all types of riding.
Fitness coming into play between a 250 and 450 is very subjective and dependant on the type of tiding you do.

These days, there's very little weight difference between the two bikes.

A 250 can take less out of you than a 450 when ridden fast, however, you can't lazily grunt them around like a bigger bike. Try doing the same thing on a 250 and you barely move.

It's easy to tire yourself out on a 250 and they become harder to keep the pace up on once you do, whereas a 450 can still power along with minimal effort from the rider. Ride them both hard and the 450 will take it out of you sooner for sure.

Another thing to consider is the type of riding you do. If it's roads and fire trails, a small bike revving it's ring out to do 90kph can get pretty annoying while you watch your mates on 450s disappear over the horizon at 2000rpm.
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Fitness coming into play between a 250 and 450 is very subjective and dependant on the type of tiding you do.

These days, there's very little weight difference between the two bikes.

A 250 can take less out of you than a 450 when ridden fast, however, you can't lazily grunt them around like a bigger bike. Try doing the same thing on a 250 and you barely move.

It's easy to tire yourself out on a 250 and they become harder to keep the pace up on once you do, whereas a 450 can still power along with minimal effort from the rider. Ride them both hard and the 450 will take it out of you sooner for sure.

Another thing to consider is the type of riding you do. If it's roads and fire trails, a small bike revving it's ring out to do 90kph can get pretty annoying while you watch your mates on 450s disappear over the horizon at 2000rpm.
2000 rpm, that'd be a pan head Harley they're on.

But yes I've had the fustration of ringing the neck of an IT250 down the road only to have it's previous owner mono past me on his new IT490K.
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2000 rpm, that'd be a pan head Harley they're on.
Seems like it when you're on a 250 and everyone else is on 450s and 500s on road sections.

A 350 is bearable
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yes the cc thing, I lost all my riding mates at lake Macquarie, they were on 450s/300s etc , I was on a z50.....
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Fitness coming into play between a 250 and 450 is very subjective and dependant on the type of tiding you do.

These days, there's very little weight difference between the two bikes.

A 250 can take less out of you than a 450 when ridden fast, however, you can't lazily grunt them around like a bigger bike. Try doing the same thing on a 250 and you barely move.

It's easy to tire yourself out on a 250 and they become harder to keep the pace up on once you do, whereas a 450 can still power along with minimal effort from the rider. Ride them both hard and the 450 will take it out of you sooner for sure.

Another thing to consider is the type of riding you do. If it's roads and fire trails, a small bike revving it's ring out to do 90kph can get pretty annoying while you watch your mates on 450s disappear over the horizon at 2000rpm.
True enough. Subjective it can be, as we can easily discuss 450 gyro, 250 softer at part throttle positions being less tireing etc. On paper is one thing, after riding both it can go either way for some people. Good discussions.
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