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The Ortho told me to not operate - just leave it to heal itself. He reckons I'll get nearly the same range of motion once it has healed. I will have a lump there from the odd bone alignment, but as long as that doesn't interfere with my neck brace or anything that's not gonna be a problem.
Mine has a big overlap, big lump with a jagged end that I occasionally knock on things (that'll make you cry). I have almost complete range of movement, but I do have to work around it when swimming for example - can't reach ahead too well.

Some riding gear (body armour) combinations are too uncomfortable to live with. Everyone's different. Don't rush recovery.



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Pffft only one broken bone... Amateur

As someone who's broken the collarbone twice I would get it plated if you can. My first one healed naturally and not properly and i had to have surgery to fix another issue that it caused. The one i did in February was plated as it flipped and rotated and there was a jagged bit about to pierce through the skin. My first one was painfull as hell, the worst pain i've experienced. I hardly even felt this one but the Ketamine-Morph. I could have ridden 2 weeks after the surgery it was feeling that good if i didn't have the broken ribs and fractured vertebrae.

I've got no discomfort from the plate so it can stay in there.

Broken bones are better than torn muscles or tendons. I'll take a break any day over a tear.
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Yeah, given other X-rays I've seen my break isn't too bad.

I went in to the ortho wanting him to operate but he talked me out of it. I was in quite a bit of pain with the bones grinding together, and although I had Endone it made me feel terrible... bad enough that the collar bone pain was better to deal with. I dunno how people enjoy that stuff and get hooked on it

I hear you on rather breaking the bone than doing tendon/rotator cuff/etc. damage.
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I've got no discomfort from the plate so it can stay in there.
Having dealt with literally dozens of broken Scaps I'd advise very strongly against this Dan.

If there's 4 screws in your Scap, there's 4 easily broken start points in the event of a crash.

A plated bone IS WAY WEAKER than a fully healed bone with the screws out.

Drill four holes in a stick and see where it breaks...
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Yeah, given other X-rays I've seen my break isn't too bad.

I went in to the ortho wanting him to operate but he talked me out of it. I was in quite a bit of pain with the bones grinding together, and although I had Endone it made me feel terrible... bad enough that the collar bone pain was better to deal with. I dunno how people enjoy that stuff and get hooked on it

I hear you on rather breaking the bone than doing tendon/rotator cuff/etc. damage.
Endone is horrible for me, I refuse to take it, plain old panadeine forte is better. I felt like crap and had terrible nightmares when taking endone and when on high doses I even had hallucinations.

Pethidine was a different story and also highly addictive, they don't seem to administer it anymore (a quick google reveals why).
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I broke my collar bone about 4 years ago, long storey short, was advised to have it plated because of the sharp bit sitting under the skin. Was told even if it did heal naturally it would be annoying and i would end up having it shaved. 2 week after op back at work, no inpact sport for 6 weeks and back to normal. If in the same situation again i wouldnt hesitate to go under the knife.
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Endone is horrible for me, I refuse to take it, plain old panadeine forte is better. I felt like crap and had terrible nightmares when taking endone and when on high doses I even had hallucinations.



Pethidine was a different story and also highly addictive, they don't seem to administer it anymore (a quick google reveals why).


You boys would really struggle with the Morph-Ket mix. I have a high tolerance to pain killers and after the first 2 days they wouldn't take me off the morph-ket until I stopped using it. So I went a day without pain relief just to get taken off it and be able to go on endone. Endone does very little to me. I can function normally, I don't get drowsy, I can drive etc.

I reckon that is probably the way you guys feel on the endone is the way I felt.
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Well, it's just over 2 weeks now and yesterday I largely removed my sling. The shoulder is pretty stiff and when I move it in certain directions (slowly) I can feel it "pulling" where the break is - enough discomfort to stop me pushing my luck. But I could at least use it very lightly which was cool. It is pretty stiff this morning though so I think I need to keep taking it easy.

For those of you that have had similar breaks, does that sound about right as far as recovery goes? Anything in particular I need to watch out for that might slow/reverse my recovery?
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At this early stage of healing:

First thing in the morning

Breathing
Ujjayi Breathing (research the technique) for increased blood flow and to generate heat internally.
Elevate your heart rate a number of times per day without directly stressing your shoulder.

Movement
You will have more freedom in gleno-humeral joint than the sterno-clavicular and scapula for which the latter invites clavicular motion(potential ouch). Differentiate between the two and use the G.A.S principle.

Careful doing too much sitting at a computer as this closed-chest position shortens soft tissue in surrounding structures.
Lie supine with palms up to counteract this.
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arctra,
no doubt youre seeing a physio. the shoulder needs to be kept moving within painfree range of motion at this early stage. if you push it, it'll be one step forward and two back.
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