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Clickers are confusing

Can someone shed some basic light on rebound and compression high and low speed adjustments for me. I had the suspension serviced recently. The springs are right for my weight. Just need to understand what does what.
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I know SFA about suspension.
Very basic, hs compression controls fast shock movements like square edges and logs, ls comp controls slower shock movements like undulations.
Rebound controls how fast the shock tries to get back to it's normal state after being compressed.

It's difficult to give a basic lesson in suspension adjustment, there is only so much you can do with clickers if the valving is not in the ball park and there are interactions that sometimes seem a little counter-intuitive when it comes to adjustment.

In the past there have been a few links posted that had very good explanations of clicker adjustment and their effects, as well as examples of issues and the possible causes.

Hopefully this thread will develop and contain some great info, if so I'll make it stick as a ready reference.
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Thats a nice simple explanation Sav

A few other things to note: HS and LS is in relation to actual shaft speeds. Not to be confused with how fast you are riding the bike.

The clickers are simply oil bypasses/bleed circuits and work like taps. Opening them (counter clock wise) increases flow, while closing (clockwise) restricts flow.

Moving on from that: More flow = softer/faster, where less is firmer/slower.

As with most things, you'll learn the most by experimenting with how changes effect the handling, and by only making one change at a time (one circuit) you will have a greater understanding as opposed to making a load of changes and hoping for the best.
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Just one more thing when making changes, if you are just new to this go at least 4 clicks at a time so you can notice the difference and ride over the same track so you can tell the difference. You can always go back to where you started, but if only going 1 click at a time you will struggle to notice the changes. Be prepared to spend a day on it. Instead of going for a trail ride go and find yourself a 2 minute loop with the type of riding you will spend most if your time on and then just keep doing the same loop. Take notes as you go as well and you will really start to get the hang of the difference that the clickers make.
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Great thanks guys.
The concept of the operation of the shocks is one thing. Then there is the different bikes and how each manufacturer sets theirs up.
For Yamaha forks are the top clickers the rebound and bottom compression.
For the shock is the top nut HS comp and the clicker LS comp. leaving the bottom clicker as rebound?
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Some info here

http://www.teknikmotorsport.com.au/t...-setup-guides/
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Great thanks guys.
The concept of the operation of the shocks is one thing. Then there is the different bikes and how each manufacturer sets theirs up.
For Yamaha forks are the top clickers the rebound and bottom compression.
For the shock is the top nut HS comp and the clicker LS comp. leaving the bottom clicker as rebound?
2006 WR450 owners manual HERE
~23mb pdf download.
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There will always be differences based on design. Some shocks have LSC and LSR only, some also have a HSC adjustment. Ohlins TTX have LSC AND LSR at the top and a CSC (Chasis stability control) on the bottom.

If unsure look up the documentation for the particular model/brand.

With forks, generally a closed chamber/twin chamber fork will have compression at the top and rebound at bottom, and an open cartridge will have the opposite. Again, due to how they are internally designed.
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From the pdf for the shock:
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I was doing a ride day a long time ago at Darlington Park on my HuskyNox. Judd Greedy played around with my suspension after watching me and the next few laps it felt like I had 10 more HP. That there told me how important it is to be in the know on your suspension.

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