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Old 27-04-2012
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Out at gembrook just after they opened a lot of tracks after the last wet season and was stopped by a ranger who'd asked all the usual questions after he'd interrogated us I'd ask the question
'you close most of these tracks due to the minority of some 4x4 enthusiasts ruining your tracks when they're wet understandably, but a motor bike has less of a footprint on the tracks why aren't they open to us riders.'
he'd said 'if riders where more organised with good representation they probably would keep them open and create tracks for us to use all year round it's just some 4x4 seem to get into any track they'd fit into and ruin them for all.'

Unfortunately I wouldn't be a good enough spokes person or representer and there are some groups that are trying but can't seem to get through the red tape that restricts us all.
Unification would get us further with good representation in state government might get things happening for us.
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Yeah but as bruce and others have found, most riders are selfish pricks that won't put any effort into supporting their hobby. They just wanna rock up, rip up and piss off.
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Yeah but as bruce and others have found, most riders are selfish pricks that won't put any effort into supporting their hobby. They just wanna rock up, rip up and piss off.
Your point being
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So it's a pointless conversation lol
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Old 28-04-2012
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What if the DSE office at Gembrook had a stand with free bags of seed .

When you go to Gembrrok stop at the office and pick up your bag .Then when out on the trail's we can stop at bits that need seed and sprinkle some around .

Would that help ?
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Or something like a stock impound permit used for fishing in dams ... The money goes into a reveg fund, when the designated trail is deemed worn out, they move the trail and use the fund to reveg ... Seems simple to me
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But riders don't knock any tree's down, we ride around them? single track rehabilitates itself within 12-24 months of no use.

As con said - they don't hesitate to put in a new road that knocks down a 40m wide path of trees down along it's way, or putting in a new firebreak that knocks down more trees than all the "illegal" tracks in the entire forest do. It's just unfathomable to suggest that we cause any real damage compared to what the government agencies do in the name of "forest management". (Or compared to natural forces).

In fact half these forests were knocked flat with logging 80 yers ago, so even suggesting what we are doing now is damaging is ridiculous.

It's just a control/anti-fun thing. There's no actual science, logic or purpose to anything they're doing.

People don't want to see or hear you having any fun.
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But riders don't knock any tree's down, we ride around them? single track rehabilitates itself within 12-24 months of no use.

As con said - they don't hesitate to put in a new road that knocks down a 40m wide path of trees down along it's way, or putting in a new firebreak that knocks down more trees than all the "illegal" tracks in the entire forest do. It's just unfathomable to suggest that we cause any real damage compared to what the government agencies do in the name of "forest management". (Or compared to natural forces).

In fact half these forests were knocked flat with logging 80 yers ago, so even suggesting what we are doing now is damaging is ridiculous.

It's just a control/anti-fun thing. There's no actual science, logic or purpose to anything they're doing.

People don't want to see or hear you having any fun.
That right there is about the crux of the matter.
Joe Public that can't ride a bike for one or more of many many reasons is not happy that we are out living life and enjoying ourselves and are getting away with using noise or the green slant as their excuse to shut us down.
Miserable old pricks that have outlived their use by date, yay for modern medicine.
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I wish we had you sorts of fellas trying to fight for some riding areas over here in SA, we all just roll over and put up with it

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But riders don't knock any tree's down, we ride around them? single track rehabilitates itself within 12-24 months of no use.

As con said - they don't hesitate to put in a new road that knocks down a 40m wide path of trees down along it's way, or putting in a new firebreak that knocks down more trees than all the "illegal" tracks in the entire forest do. It's just unfathomable to suggest that we cause any real damage compared to what the government agencies do in the name of "forest management". (Or compared to natural forces).

In fact half these forests were knocked flat with logging 80 yers ago, so even suggesting what we are doing now is damaging is ridiculous.

It's just a control/anti-fun thing. There's no actual science, logic or purpose to anything they're doing.

People don't want to see or hear you having any fun.
Where is the environmental impact study on motorcycling versus dse's own maintenance versus people building homes in the are versus logging.

We all know which would have the least impact.
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