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Old 18-08-2017
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Ian your shoulder problem could be from pressing weights at the gym - bench pressing . Ive got a similar problem . Gets very sore on the top part of shoulder blade ,
Can you do muscle ups ? , Not many people can do them .
Anyone see that old Irish guy show Connor Mcgregor how they are done ? s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzDAxasj1-8

One thing the physio told me is that shoulders don't like it when your elbows are right back in line with your shoulders. He said movements like behind the neck pull ups or military presses are a real bad idea, even wide grip pull ups are putting unnecessary strain on them.

I do dumbbell clean and presses a bit, and I'm going to be concious of keeping my elbows forward, he even suggested having my palms facing each other at the top of the movement.

I can still do a hand full of muscle ups but maybe not as clean as that old guy right now. That was a cool vid, I was inspired by the old guy, and blown away that Conor actually replied and gave him props, that was cool as. But I still hope Floyd knocks him out
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Nice one. Has all those years of hanging kept you from getting arm pump on the bike?
Nope, I've whisky throttled myself to near tragedy on several occasions due to arm pump.
But I've never deliberately hung from a bar for any significant length of time and have abstained for periods of several years.




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Nope, I've whisky throttled myself to near tragedy on several occasions due to arm pump.
I remember one occasion where I had a few seconds of terror when my hand wouldn't open to operate the front brake, it did in time but I didn't appreciate the delay.

I can remember on "Survivor" they had a hanging challenge once and I thought man that would suck just hanging on waiting to fail, but now I view it differently. I have no doubt holding on until it starts to burn on a regular basis would help cure arm pump, I often picture myself on a long hill climb when I start wanting to quit to keep me motivated.

What was interesting on that show was all the real buff guys were beaten by girls.
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I remember one occasion where I had a few seconds of terror when my hand wouldn't open to operate the front brake, it did in time but I didn't appreciate the delay.

I can remember on "Survivor" they had a hanging challenge once and I thought man that would suck just hanging on waiting to fail, but now I view it differently. I have no doubt holding on until it starts to burn on a regular basis would help cure arm pump, I often picture myself on a long hill climb when I start wanting to quit to keep me motivated.

What was interesting on that show was all the real buff guys were beaten by girls.
Definitely for the lightweights, I'm 75 kg at the moment, would last longer at my lower weight 70kg.

I made a rig years ago to hold my bike at a hill climb angle and the swung off it for exercise.
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That is actually my exact weight range too 70-75.
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Probably lost my hillclimb angle pic examples from photobucket and pc updates, they're ineresting because your pegs get forward of your bars from a vertical perspective which means you have more than your bodyweight on your arms, a good argument for using the seat when you can.
So a 2 minute steep hill climb is beyond the average rider.
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Fortunately I saved one on here.

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this is where I find steggies helpful, also momentum
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Increasing your grip strength without increasing your cardiovascular fitness can/will make arm pump worse.
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Increasing the diameter greatly impacts your grip strength as well. Going to something say 50mm in diameter once you find 34mm easy will be like starting all over again
So true, yet so many wood-ducks rave about fat grips.

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My parents were visiting last week and I showed my old man the hanging I was doing. He said I'll give it a go, he made 35 seconds, he's 71.
71 y.o. can bar up for 35 seconds...sounds about right.

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Increasing your grip strength without increasing your cardiovascular fitness can/will make arm pump worse.
This a bloody good Physio saying this folks, this simple training error almost killed Jay Marmonts career.
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