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Old 23-04-2012
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Keep out of Revegetation areas!!!!!!

Once upon a time there was a statewide DSE project called the Trail Bike Initiative that went out planting trees and closing tracks and doing work like this track closure below.



Now we see works like this.



Fuel reduction burns and clearing burn breaks are nothing new but when one week you could get booked for riding ST and the next week the track becomes a highway and reveg works are pushed away by a dozer it makes you wonder

The question we would like an answer to at VTRN is what future maintenance is there going to be when the breaks have done their job? Are we going to be blamed for erosion because these tracks have been roughly pushed in with no drainage or works to stop them washing away in the first rain?

We did try to contact the trail bike liason offcer for Southwest Victoria but he is on leave until the last week of November!!!!!
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The govt. does not make money out of us accessing the forests unlike how they do when logging companies go in to do their thing so of course we will never get permission to ride our little 600mm wide pathways.
12c per tonne will however let you clear fell large swathes of forest but no we are the environmental vandals as always.
You need to keep in mind too that the various depts' need to spend every cent of their budget each year so 'ground works' such as those pictured above will always happen, the damage done will be a reason/avenue to spend their budget on in a later year.
If it isn't us they are trying to keep out it will be some other user group but atm we are at the top of the bunch.
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You make the mistake of trying to apply logic to these situations.
Just ride and try to avoid detection.
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You make the mistake of trying to apply logic to these situations.
Just ride and try to avoid detection.
Rob,

I know logic and government are two words never to be used in the same sentence but........ If we don't keep at them who will?

The main problem I see in some of the Otway areas is that so called "trail bike hot spots" that have been very contentious in past (mainly due to ratbags playing MX around the same bit of track close to private land) are being opened up in such a way that it will encourage those people back again. The works just completed that I have looked at are basically a future motoX loop around a five acre block of bush surronded by private land on two sides and a very active landcare group that enjoys trying to kick us all out no matter much we try to be undetected.

In the future we won't be getting the trail bike project of the past, next time around it won't a few track closures and some unloadining areas
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I've been down there and watched whilst they've driven their DSE dozer straight over the tops of the little trees.

As a tax payer, you have to be pretty angry to see them spend all that money on the barracades to keep us off them, only to see the DSE destroy them.

It's alot like how they finish building trailbike unloading area's 3 months before they close an area down to riding.

There is no logic. Take Rob's advice, ignore and evade. You can't work with them.

Australian bush fire is 1000000 times the force of any dirtbiker and they go through every few years. Any "management" by the DSE/Parks or "destruction" by dirtbikers is irrelevant as the game resets to zero after each fire.

If the DSE/Parks ceased to exist no one would notice apart from the lack of pretty track signage.

Oh, and the structures designed to block dirtbikers of course.

They want to establish an exclusive parks office here to "manage" the bush. Even though it's done quite nicely by itself for several thousand years. They need an office so they can build nicer signs, fences and promote the area to bush walkers and horse riders, but shut it off to dirtbikers.

Pretty funny given dirtbikers are the only ones that want to use and enjoy it, yet they are conisdered the problem.

It's actually people like the VNPA, Parks and a lesser extent the DSE that are the problem. Green nazi's. All about doing what they want, nothing to do with what needs to be done.
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As if!!!

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I've been down there and watched whilst they've driven their DSE dozer straight over the tops of the little trees.

As a tax payer, you have to be pretty angry to see them spend all that money on the barracades to keep us off them, only to see the DSE destroy them.

It's alot like how they finish building trailbike unloading area's 3 months before they close an area down to riding.

There is no logic. Take Rob's advice, ignore and evade. You can't work with them.

Australian bush fire is 1000000 times the force of any dirtbiker and they go through every few years. Any "management" by the DSE/Parks or "destruction" by dirtbikers is irrelevant as the game resets to zero after each fire.

If the DSE/Parks ceased to exist no one would notice apart from the lack of pretty track signage.

Oh, and the structures designed to block dirtbikers of course.

They want to establish an exclusive parks office here to "manage" the bush. Even though it's done quite nicely by itself for several thousand years. They need an office so they can build nicer signs, fences and promote the area to bush walkers and horse riders, but shut it off to dirtbikers.

Pretty funny given dirtbikers are the only ones that want to use and enjoy it, yet they are conisdered the problem.

It's actually people like the VNPA, Parks and a lesser extent the DSE that are the problem. Green nazi's. All about doing what they want, nothing to do with what needs to be done.
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Could Envirorider now be "Dozerman"???

I guess it depends on funding and government priorities



I do get chessed off when they knock trees over my fence and leave them there and don't repair the fence. You'd think officers at DSE would have learned something about cr@$%inp in the wrong nest by now
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That tree looks a bit dead.
Did they knock it during track clearing.
If so send them an invoice.
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Doesn`t the Parks/DSE single track problem seems a lot irrelevant when you witness football fields of destruction and single vehicle access roads widened to 3 lanes?

I`m not sure how land managers, or the local Land Care group can see trail bike track erosion as a problem, when you compared it to the amount of tree clearing thats gone on here.

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