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  • Product launch was only 3 days ago up and over the hill from my place.
    I’ll ask from a few in the know.
    2011 Gas Gas txt300r
    2018 Gas Gas EC300GP

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    • checked out the gas gas range last week, they look nice but the bars and no hand guards look cheap when your on the bike compared to kym / husky

      the saving are just not there 21 250 4stroke or 2 stroke 13.3 to 13.5k on road
      Total Entertainment 14 250, STIC powered, KYB suspended.
      Huskly lovin bike whore

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      • Start off great value undercut the rest to build a following then bring the price up later. Ah well....

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        • Originally posted by Gypsy501 View Post
          Has anyone on this forum purchased a 2021 Gasgas - model & thoughts so far ??


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          I can't find the place I posted about riding one, so I'll post here.

          Since riding it new, my mate has bought the TSP head, ECU upgrade, fan, idle screw, among other bits and pieces. To cut a long story short, we can't make it run as well as my carby '18 right off closed throttle. Mine will pop the front wheel easily and controllable from closed throttle in 1st or any other gear with the clutch. The TPI just won't do it without a lot more effort, more revs, more clutch. We've turned the air bypass screw from fully in to 4 turns out. Right out it runs on badly, way too lean. Right in, it's a rich bog. About 2.5 turns out seems best. We wound the PV screw out flush, same as mine, and every iteration in between. The motor responds well once above 1/4 turn but it is just not right from closed throttle.

          We have it as best as can be by going to 13/52.

          End result. TPI just ain't as good as a we'll set up carby.

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          • Originally posted by Pete40 View Post

            I can't find the place I posted about riding one, so I'll post here.

            Since riding it new, my mate has bought the TSP head, ECU upgrade, fan, idle screw, among other bits and pieces. To cut a long story short, we can't make it run as well as my carby '18 right off closed throttle. Mine will pop the front wheel easily and controllable from closed throttle in 1st or any other gear with the clutch. The TPI just won't do it without a lot more effort, more revs, more clutch. We've turned the air bypass screw from fully in to 4 turns out. Right out it runs on badly, way too lean. Right in, it's a rich bog. About 2.5 turns out seems best. We wound the PV screw out flush, same as mine, and every iteration in between. The motor responds well once above 1/4 turn but it is just not right from closed throttle.

            We have it as best as can be by going to 13/52.

            End result. TPI just ain't as good as a we'll set up carby.
            very similar to mine Pete, but I also have Vforce reeds and FMF fatty.
            the fatty made the most difference and cleaned up that fluffy bit off idle, I run my PV one turn in from flush.
            2020 KTM 300 EXC

            http://www.shmotorcyclecentre.com.au
            http://www.mitas-moto.com

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            • Originally posted by Pete40 View Post

              I can't find the place I posted about riding one, so I'll post here.

              Since riding it new,......Hmmm To cut a long story short, we can't make it run as well as my carby '18 right off closed throttle.
              Mine will pop the front wheel easily and controllable from closed throttle in 1st or any other gear with the clutch.


              Ooooh I know Pete. There's some sorta Random issue goin on here with Mattinghoffen!
              Like I got a 350, went riding with some Dudes up in Twmba and F..k me if some random from N.Z. didn't tag along....Chris somebody.
              Anyway his brand new 350 straight off the floor, didn't even have set the tyre pressure properly little own torque the triple clamps.
              And that thing could wheelie that thing from dead stop ....thats right Birchy I think that was his nickname. Anyway this 350 could ride this thing up the side of a mountain goat! Over tree stumps I couldn't get a step ladder over.
              And I still cant work out why my 350 cant do that too. Ive checked everything right down to the interference fit of the wiring loom plug up behind the front light. All OEM tolerances everywhere! Even greased the steering stop bolts.

              So i think your dead right Oz gets a lotta the friday arvo build. Hey!
              P.s. Anyway theres a guy over on another thread who reckons his 300 acts the same tooo!
              He could use your help.

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              • Originally posted by capri70 View Post

                very similar to mine Pete, but I also have Vforce reeds and FMF fatty.
                the fatty made the most difference and cleaned up that fluffy bit off idle, I run my PV one turn in from flush.
                So would you say it runs as well as a we'll set up carby now? Was yours a 250? This one is, so is mine. 300's are different anyway off the bottom.

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                • Originally posted by Motoxfox View Post


                  Ooooh I know Pete. There's some sorta Random issue goin on here with Mattinghoffen!
                  Like I got a 350, went riding with some Dudes up in Twmba and F..k me if some random from N.Z. didn't tag along....Chris somebody.
                  Anyway his brand new 350 straight off the floor, didn't even have set the tyre pressure properly little own torque the triple clamps.
                  And that thing could wheelie that thing from dead stop ....thats right Birchy I think that was his nickname. Anyway this 350 could ride this thing up the side of a mountain goat! Over tree stumps I couldn't get a step ladder over.
                  And I still cant work out why my 350 cant do that too. Ive checked everything right down to the interference fit of the wiring loom plug up behind the front light. All OEM tolerances everywhere! Even greased the steering stop bolts.

                  So i think your dead right Oz gets a lotta the friday arvo build. Hey!
                  P.s. Anyway theres a guy over on another thread who reckons his 300 acts the same tooo!
                  He could use your help.
                  I'm sure you're being sarcastic but I'll correct your misconceptions. You're talking 4 strokes, totally different animal. I actually know how picky CB can be, and he has actually ridden my own 250 for 2 days straight (different one to mine now) and done really well, no complaints. Perhaps he was just being polite?

                  I honestly just don't think the TPI is the same as a carby in performance off idle. I don't know if we are just experiencing a lemon, if it's just a 250 TPI problem, or if it's widespread and other people just either don't know it a problem, or just ride around it.

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                  • Originally posted by Pete40 View Post

                    I'm sure you're being sarcastic but I'll correct your misconceptions. You're talking 4 strokes, totally different animal. I actually know how picky CB can be, and he has actually ridden my own 250 for 2 days straight (different one to mine now) and done really well, no complaints. Perhaps he was just being polite?

                    I honestly just don't think the TPI is the same as a carby in performance off idle. I don't know if we are just experiencing a lemon, if it's just a 250 TPI problem, or if it's widespread and other people just either don't know it a problem, or just ride around it.
                    IMO Pete, I actually wouldnít call it a problem, but hey we as humans are all different animals and prefer different tastes. Itís seems the Extreme Hard Enduro sport is getting bigger world wide and ktm are making there Enduro bikes smother end less aggressive for this sport - most of the EHE racers I know are actually dialling there TPIs down for more traction. ( the last thing you want in a slick rock garden is aggressive power straight off idle ) . Hey these are my thoughts from a weekend warrior trail rider who can ride his mates bikes with TSPs as itís to much power.


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                    • I had a very powerful STIC powered 14/250 now have stock TPI with TSP head, A/S is 4.5 turns out.
                      IT runs better than both my carbs set up off idle, does it have more power? maybe not but its still got power and when you turn the throttle deeper it pulls much better than a carb bike when your just off idle under alot of load the TPI pulls much quicker and cleaner.

                      I did all the PV adjustments too and i found flush is lazy off idle the best setting for me is 1.5 turn in from flush which was 2 turns out from stock and the red spring, like the carb bikes it pulls earlier.

                      my TPI / 250 does have that BS pipe bang near idle off the throttle and it pisses me off, but i have no trouble lifting the front off idle and have not yet changed the stock A/S settings at 50Hrs.

                      maybe i was lucky but it idles nice and low smooth and crisp with good power, i was always under the impression the TSP kit makes the bike much better, but you can set up a carb to be rich off idle and give you that snap at large throttle openings but when you have the light small openeing off idle it can have a bit of a rich a stuuter or slight burble/ hesitation too.

                      anyway i like my TPI apart from the pipe bang they are very good the chassic nicely balanced over the older models.
                      Total Entertainment 14 250, STIC powered, KYB suspended.
                      Huskly lovin bike whore

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                      • 4.5 turns out on this one is immediately a hanging throttle, too lean. The bike is pretty equal to my 250 carb one everywhere else except straight off idle. Mine has red spring. You don't get the other springs with a Gas Gas so I would assume it has the yellow in there. I'll have an old red spring to try I reckon, might do that, but I'm not sure that will change things off idle.

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                        • Originally posted by Pete40 View Post
                          4.5 turns out on this one is immediately a hanging throttle, too lean. The bike is pretty equal to my 250 carb one everywhere else except straight off idle. Mine has red spring. You don't get the other springs with a Gas Gas so I would assume it has the yellow in there. I'll have an old red spring to try I reckon, might do that, but I'm not sure that will change things off idle.
                          Considering there's about 3000rpm difference from idle to any PV action, I'd doubt it too.

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                          • Originally posted by Pete40 View Post

                            So would you say it runs as well as a we'll set up carby now? Was yours a 250? This one is, so is mine. 300's are different anyway off the bottom.
                            Yes, mine is a 300, and runs as well as carby bike .
                            2020 KTM 300 EXC

                            http://www.shmotorcyclecentre.com.au
                            http://www.mitas-moto.com

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                            • Originally posted by capri70 View Post

                              Yes, mine is a 300, and runs as well as carby bike .
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2MqfTlOTKs

                              TPIs still arenít proven, stick to the old technology (Carbys)



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                              • Originally posted by Gypsy501 View Post

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2MqfTlOTKs

                                TPIs still arenít proven, stick to the old technology (Carbys)



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                                There's million XR's that came before KTM mate!

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