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    From memory DBW had a rating system. I can't remember though whether it was rating rides or riders. Either way I'm looking for it and can't find it, can anyone help me with that? Cheers.
    I love dirtbikes!!

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    Originally posted by normanator27 View Post
    From memory DBW had a rating system. I can't remember though whether it was rating rides or riders. Either way I'm looking for it and can't find it, can anyone help me with that? Cheers.
    Well there was a ride rating system - there might have been a rider rating system too.
    Level one was basically dirt roads and well maintained fire trails.
    Level two was easy single track.
    Levels three and four were increasingly difficult single.
    Level five was trials level single and trackless exploration over difficult country.

    I dont really know much about the later levels. Since my comeback (last decade or so) I found level two to be doable, whereas level three (even that described as easy 3) was difficult to crack. I might have ridden some level 4 in my "youth".
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      https://www.dirtbikeworld.net/forum/...tem-please-use
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      • #4
        Well there you go, a rider grading system masquerading as a ride grading system.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by OldManRiver View Post
          Well there you go, a rider grading system masquerading as a ride grading system.
          Well there you go, I got both things that I was looking for. Cheers Gents.
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          • #6
            I get the general vibe, but I always struggle with the idea of combining difficulty, pace and assistance into one number.

            For example: On a ride with my usual group of four, we could be seriously play racing one minute, then get to a particular obstacle and we all pitch in to make sure that everyone gets through.
            How do you grade that?

            I mean, that’s pretty normal when you are trailriding with non-jerks, but I don’t know how you put a single digit number on it.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Spac View Post
              I get the general vibe, but I always struggle with the idea of combining difficulty, pace and assistance into one number.

              For example: On a ride with my usual group of four, we could be seriously play racing one minute, then get to a particular obstacle and we all pitch in to make sure that everyone gets through.
              How do you grade that?

              I mean, that’s pretty normal when you are trailriding with non-jerks, but I don’t know how you put a single digit number on it.
              I'm not so concerned about rating pace (were all late 40's early 50's), more difficulty of terrain. I'm newly involved with a group of riders, some are just keen on just cruising fire trails, others want to do more single. Most of them ride DRZ 400's, some of them are set up for enduro, others are more at the adventure riding set up. We had a ride the other week that was good for some, but half of the guys bailed after an hour, so were trying to rate the rides so people know what they're in for.
              Last edited by normanator27; 6 days ago. Reason: corrected my poor grammar
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Spac View Post
                I get the general vibe, but I always struggle with the idea of combining difficulty, pace and assistance into one number.

                For example: On a ride with my usual group of four, we could be seriously play racing one minute, then get to a particular obstacle and we all pitch in to make sure that everyone gets through.
                How do you grade that?

                I mean, that’s pretty normal when you are 'trailriding with non-jerks', but I don’t know how you put a single digit number on it.
                Your spot on there Spac.
                IMHO Normy
                First off should be Rider Attitude grading!
                Including level of humour / entertainment value.
                Second cab off the rank should be Level of Bike prep / general condition
                plus preparedness to cope with the unexpected.
                Last the level of protective gear a rider wears.

                Off course all three lead straight to the fabled ( yes we've all seen em) 16 1/2 yr old on the s...tb.x 450MX'er in flannos and gumboots tearing the the bush
                as if he's chasing Chad Read....so he can give him a few tips on how to get out of the gates in SX !..... *


                * Of course comments above are No reflection on CR22 who was a fabulous starter in his prime !

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by normanator27 View Post

                  I'm not so concerned about rating pace (were all late 40's early 50's), more difficulty of terrain. I'm newly involved with a group of riders, some are just keen on just cruising fire trails, others want to do more single. Most of them ride DRZ 400's, some of them are set up for enduro, others are more at the adventure riding set up. We had a ride the other week that was good for some, but half of the guys bailed after an hour, so were trying to rate the rides so people know what they're in for.
                  The DBW guide will help you communicate then.
                  There’s also the DSMRA rating. It is similar, but different enough that you need to be clear which system you are using... https://www.dsmra.asn.au/riding/dsmra-grading-system

                  Also be aware that it’s still open to interpretation. For a while there, the NSW South Coast guys were under-rating the difficulty level by a fair bit: what was a Grade 3 down there would be at least a Grade 4 most other places... I think it was a bit of ego and a bit of “but this is what we ride all the time!?” and genuinely not understanding that it is quite a bit harder than most people ride.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Spac View Post
                    Also be aware that it’s still open to interpretation. For a while there, the NSW South Coast guys were under-rating the difficulty level by a fair bit: what was a Grade 3 down there would be at least a Grade 4 most other places... I think it was a bit of ego and a bit of “but this is what we ride all the time!?” and genuinely not understanding that it is quite a bit harder than most people ride.
                    Yes that did happen from time to time.

                    The trick was and still is to take note of the ride poster/leader.
                    I've never seen a grade 1 ride posted. Most people respect a grade 2 ride.
                    If a ride is graded 3, then keep your wits about who's posting.
                    I knew I wasnt up to grade 4 rides.
                    Unfortuneatly rides dont seem to get posted anymore, and I'm pretty much a pseudo adventure ride these days anyhow.
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                    • #11
                      Some 10+ years ago, I made a trip to a DBW ride/camp @ the Watagan's.
                      I sought to experience that/there to it's fullest: So I chose the grade 4 ride:

                      Big mistake: I was new-to wet-sandstone: Blokes rode my bike out for me:
                      I'd dropped/trashed it-in the humidity: With my hangover; I was fully-spent.

                      My point is; grading remains subjective imo. Dependant on the environment.
                      I'd imagined I was 3+ so I might cope with a 4?.. I learn't that I'm/yet ~Three.

                      Still, I greatly value that-time & experience: I've no regrets there whatsoever:
                      I remain grateful to those blokes who helped me out. I was due-for humbling.
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