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    Ok people who have knowledge of the above, school me on the 2012 and above WR450, good, bad and indifferent, I know they were heavy but what else? Has the injection been reliable? Are they a bucket of lard that overheats?................tell me more moto gurus

    I need a rego bike that will do the occasional 25klm road trip but mostly bush work as a whole.
    Ultimate power breeds ultimate corruption ^roost

  • #2
    Originally posted by Max at the Flat View Post
    Ok people who have knowledge of the above, school me on the 2012 and above WR450, good, bad and indifferent, I know they were heavy but what else? Has the injection been reliable? Are they a bucket of lard that overheats?................tell me more moto gurus

    I need a rego bike that will do the occasional 25klm road trip but mostly bush work as a whole.

    Have you considered the KLX 450R ?

    > https://www.teammoto.com.au/new-bike...r/2021/1551709

    Time and tide . .

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    • #3
      Originally posted by pk View Post


      Have you considered the KLX 450R ?

      > https://www.teammoto.com.au/new-bike...r/2021/1551709
      Yeah would rather go on the road most travelled if I am gunna pull the trigger, lots of WR'S around for reasonable prices plus the aftermarket is huge, I think I have only seen 1 KLX450 out bush.
      Ultimate power breeds ultimate corruption ^roost

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      • #4
        A workmate had a 2017 WRF450. He bought it to replace his first ever dirtbike (which was a KLX650).

        He bought the WRF because he's a big unit (6'4" and maybe 120kg) and everyone told him he needed a 450. That and the 1% finance Yamaha was offering at the time.

        It was a pig of a thing. He spent ages messing around with maps, gearing it up, gearing it down, blah blah and it always sucked on anything harder than fire roads.
        Basically, it was too barky. If you rode it a gear high then you were deep into the 4T cough and stall territory. If you rode it in the correct gear, then you needed to be a much better rider than me to hold on.

        One ride at Tally, he was in the tail end of the group - not embarrassing himself, but definitely one of the slower riders in our big group. He got on my 300 and was suddenly well up in the pack...
        I struggled with the 450 - admittedly it isn't my sort of bike, but I was actually far more comfortable on the old KLX because it gave more warning before stalling and didn't demand such precise throttle control in the more technical stuff.

        Brakes were great, suspension was good. Ergos ok but bike was fat.

        He was trying to work out how to trade it in on a WRF250 or a 300 without his missus knowing, when he had a car crash that ended his riding days.

        Beta 200RR

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Spac View Post
          A workmate had a 2017 WRF450. He bought it to replace his first ever dirtbike (which was a KLX650).

          He bought the WRF because he's a big unit (6'4" and maybe 120kg) and everyone told him he needed a 450. That and the 1% finance Yamaha was offering at the time.

          It was a pig of a thing. He spent ages messing around with maps, gearing it up, gearing it down, blah blah and it always sucked on anything harder than fire roads.
          Basically, it was too barky. If you rode it a gear high then you were deep into the 4T cough and stall territory. If you rode it in the correct gear, then you needed to be a much better rider than me to hold on.
          snip

          Are they still having the cough and stall crap? My old 525 would get down so low in the revs at times you could literally count the firing stroke and still not stall..................might have to consider KTM/Husky in that case, I dont really want a 2 stroke as I will do some road riding even though the counterbalanced ones that I have ridden are pretty good, looks like I will have a late model 500 at my place on the weekend so will give that a go.
          Ultimate power breeds ultimate corruption ^roost

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Max at the Flat View Post

            snip

            Are they still having the cough and stall crap? My old 525 would get down so low in the revs at times you could literally count the firing stroke and still not stall..................might have to consider KTM/Husky in that case, I dont really want a 2 stroke as I will do some road riding even though the counterbalanced ones that I have ridden are pretty good, looks like I will have a late model 500 at my place on the weekend so will give that a go.
            Yes - well this bike did anyway. Possibly/probably something that you'd get used to but I actually found it harder to deal with than an XR or the KLX because it was less consistent - where the KLX would be obviously in the danger zone, the WRF would feel fine and then suddenly *puh*.It was worse than a mate's enduroised '08 CRF450R, which surprised me.
            Also the KLX and CRF were both a lot easier to ride higher in the revs because they didn't want to roar off with the slightest bump of the throttle.
            Beta 200RR

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Max at the Flat View Post

              snip

              Are they still having the cough and stall crap? My old 525 would get down so low in the revs at times you could literally count the firing stroke and still not stall..................might have to consider KTM/Husky in that case, I dont really want a 2 stroke as I will do some road riding even though the counterbalanced ones that I have ridden are pretty good, looks like I will have a late model 500 at my place on the weekend so will give that a go.
              - agreed, with the 520 and 525 you were able to count the firing strokes and feel pretty confident of making it up that gnarly hill
              The 525 was one of the best/fun bikes i have ridden !

              Perhaps with the WR it is not necessarily one issue but more a combination of minor issues ?
              • F.I. ?
              • Bore v Stroke ?
              • Mapping ?
              • Gearing ?
              • Flywheel/reciprocating mass ?
              • Standard Exhaust restriction ?
              My carby WR450 was a great bike and i put >10,000k's on it over the years

              Pity that i have not had the chance to ride a F.I. version for comparison . . .

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              Last edited by pk; 6 days ago.
              Time and tide . .

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              • #8
                Something i just learned today , the factory Honda and Yamaha works trials bikes run 2 spark plugs for that low off the bottom crisp[ no bog] power, [irrelevant in wide open mx ,enduro racing] complex mapping tho for about 300cc .
                ^roost

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Max at the Flat View Post
                  Ok people who have knowledge of the above, school me on the 2012 and above WR450, good, bad and indifferent, I know they were heavy but what else? Has the injection been reliable? Are they a bucket of lard that overheats?................tell me more moto gurus

                  I need a rego bike that will do the occasional 25klm road trip but mostly bush work as a whole.
                  What do you mean by 'bush work'?
                  Is the 25km trip at highway speeds or cruisey back roads?

                  The WR will be fine if the bush work is nothing slower or more technical than fire trails and the 25kms isn't a highway run.

                  I've witnessed them cough & stall plenty of times when it's real steep or slow & technical... and they're usually the first to boil.
                  That said, the ones I've ridden with have all been reliable.

                  A close mate upgraded from an 05 to a 16, then finally realised that they're not suited to the riding we do.
                  Now he's on a Sherco 300 SEF and it's like he's a different rider.

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                  • #10
                    50hp is 50hp: I'm fully-aware/capable-maybe.
                    Power/does need/be manageable/too maybe.

                    I've/no knowledge/somewhat: I would suss-it.
                    I'd re-print it's-software to-suit-me; have a go.

                    I desire bikes with balls: I'm the boss though.
                    Sort it-out... or-don't... That's fully up too you.

                    Edit: Fiddle-arse about with-an ignition-spark.
                    You shouldn't need-it imo: If you do... You do.
                    The More I Learn... The Less I Know.
                    That Which Doesn't Change... Stays The Same.
                    Those That Don't Fall... Just Aren't Trying Hard Enough.
                    Genius or Idiot... Sadly it's Defined by the Mediocre Masses... With their Hindsight.
                    Dicklaimer... The Text above is to be Evaluated by a Responsible Person... Prior to Any Action Being Taken.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Max at the Flat View Post
                      Ok people who have knowledge of the above, school me on the 2012 and above WR450, good, bad and indifferent, I know they were heavy but what else? Has the injection been reliable? Are they a bucket of lard that overheats?................tell me more moto gurus

                      I need a rego bike that will do the occasional 25klm road trip but mostly bush work as a whole.
                      Danny your a young man, don’t do it!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Medium Rare View Post

                        Danny your a young man, don’t do it!
                        Agree


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Medium Rare View Post

                          Danny your a young man, don’t do it!
                          Better to do it whilst your young and strong enough and quick enough with the clutch in the tech stuff, BUT even Merriman couldn't keep his WR from stalling at Wildwood.
                          .
                          Ignorance leads to confidence more often than knowledge does
                          .

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                          • #14
                            You're a marvel super hero TOE - CUTTER ... That's not intended to disparage nor belittle you whatsoever.
                            Be aware, our fire-fighters, on oil-rigs, are a whole-other term for capability. I intend to ride TOE - CUTTER.

                            I'm absolutely convinced that he would show me-up for-the un-fit lazy-arse bum that I am; bring that-on.
                            I'm more about bullshitting around our campfire; that's something I'm maybe-capable & confident about.

                            To add some context here... Years ago... I bought a Husky WR 360 2T.... Bastard machine was out to kill me... Flogged it-off asap... Likely killed the-it's purchaser... I'll never know.
                            The More I Learn... The Less I Know.
                            That Which Doesn't Change... Stays The Same.
                            Those That Don't Fall... Just Aren't Trying Hard Enough.
                            Genius or Idiot... Sadly it's Defined by the Mediocre Masses... With their Hindsight.
                            Dicklaimer... The Text above is to be Evaluated by a Responsible Person... Prior to Any Action Being Taken.

                            *George Carlin*What We Do*No Bravery*Tell the Truth*911*Genetic Armageddon*Carbon Tax*Interplanetary Climate Change*Fracking*Shock Doctrine*Extinction Protocol*

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                            • #15
                              9000k single track / virgin single track

                              kwack 4 fitty klx 2009

                              faultless

                              Only enduro bike @ the time with closed chambers..

                              overlooked because not hip





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