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    I was out at Clarence today having a look round and came across a gate with signs all over the place
    ie military land keep out
    lazer systems in use etc

    The kind of signage you see at Holsworthy,I didnt know we had defence facilities out that way.

    Maybe some of the local 'farmers' dont like tourists comin thru eh?

    Can anyone tell me where the right at the t comes out?
    Wallowing in my ingorance 😎

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    the army has a secret base at the back of marrangaroo. it is where the S.A.S. do their temperate jungle covert ops training. i would pay attention to the signs if i were you.
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    • #3
      just back from a quick 5 day trip to cairns after becoming a grandfather on Monday.

      yep marrangaroo army base, been there since WWII (1941)

      Marrangaroo Army Camp situated at the end of Reserve road used to be a major Ammunition Depot from 1941 to the late 80's. It is now used for demolitions and various training by all three services. During the second world war it housed one of Australia's best kept secrets; Chemical Warfare. Marrangaroo was the administration headquarters for all of NSW RAAF (Royal Australian Air Force) Chemical Weapon Stores which were kept in Tunnels and sidings at Marrangaroo (old tunnel and siding near correctional centre), Glenbrook tunnel in the Blue Mountains, Clarence Tunnel (now part of the zig zag railway) and Picton tunnel in Sydney's south. A new book called "Chemical Warfare in Australia" by Geoff Plunkett describes the people and places.

      Accidently rode into the back end of it through a then unfenced section in 2004 and only realized where we were when we saw some shells scattered all over the place in the scrub, high tailed it carefully back out as quick as we could.
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      • #4
        Patto65 Interesting what goes on up there ive been told theres a another airstrip up there,but be overgrown now.

        Just curious do you know what the concrete tunnels are near the air stip before you go down the hill into town?

        cheers
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        • #5
          Originally posted by twobanger View Post
          Patto65 Interesting what goes on up there ive been told theres a another airstrip up there,but be overgrown now.

          Just curious do you know what the concrete tunnels are near the air stip before you go down the hill into town?

          cheers
          clwydd anti aircraft gun emplacements to protect the clarence tunnel + the small arms factory. http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/bunkers/lithgowaa.htm
          also a few in town out to the south of the new hospital on the s/w side of town. they were put in primarily to protect the small arms factory + most of the mines were still operating in the valley itself in the 1940's.
          From memory they emplacements had 3.7inch guns, not sure if they were manufactured at the SAF or at maribynong.
          Also there were a few air raid shelters in the valley, still remember one from my childhood under the hill on the s/e side overlooking the SAF

          A bit of Lithgow saf history.
          http://militaryguns.net.au/content/view/45/105/
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            A further effect of the Small Arms Factory was to add Lithgow to the `Sydney Fortress Area` created in 1941, after Japan entered the Second World War. To protect Australia`s munitions industry from attack by air or by land, anti-aircraft guns and a detachment of machine-gunners were placed at Lithgow. In 1941 the Lewis machine guns were placed on the flat concrete roof of the main SAF building (still surviving but with the addition of a pitched roof) while the anti-aircraft guns were sited at Bowenfels in the grounds of the old Presbyterian manse in Kirkley Street. In 1942 concrete batteries were built, one to protect the guns at Bowenfels, the other on the top of Scenic Hill to protect the ammunition depot in the old Clarence tunnel. The Clarence emplacement (which still exists) was disguised as `Hokes Village` with imitation houses, shops and even animals, while at Bowenfels the manse was disguised as a farmhouse with cattle yards, poultry, pig pens and a skeletal barn. At Marrangaroo, where there was a major ammunition depot also, another village called `Hokesville` sprang up, complete with a pseudo-hotel.
            This defensive activity continued around the Small Arms Factory and its ammunition stores until January 1944.
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            • #7
              [QUOTE=patto65;1031585]just back from a quick 5 day trip to cairns after becoming a grandfather on Monday.

              Congrats Grandad.

              I do now recall hearing of mustard gas being stored up that way.

              I was looking for the track what comes out near the soccer fields out near lidsdale? but this one is just as good.

              I turned around part way into it with fuel shortage paranoia ie new bike, new track, partially lost.

              Maybe next time
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              • #8
                have a look in at dunns swamp then follow army road south, nice clearing that looks like it could be a landing strip, smack bang in the middle of the wollemi, just NE of Glen Davis
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by hillbilly450 View Post
                  I was out at Clarence today having a look round and came across a gate with signs all over the place
                  ie military land keep out
                  lazer systems in use etc

                  The kind of signage you see at Holsworthy,I didnt know we had defence facilities out that way.

                  Maybe some of the local 'farmers' dont like tourists comin thru eh?

                  Can anyone tell me where the right at the t comes out?
                  Been in there, some of it you can ride right into the back of the base no fences We make a habit of staying away as there is heaps of excellent riding without that bit up there.

                  We saw some big mortar shells (empty) lying around.

                  One of the tracks, absolute snot if you were to ride it, ends up at the back of endless belt co? next door to the Army base. Then you ride up the gully around someones farmhouse & back onto the ridge following the powerlines
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                  • #10
                    Thanks patto65

                    Like to know a bit of our own local history,its chock a block with it up there.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by twobanger View Post
                      Patto65 Interesting what goes on up there ive been told theres a another airstrip up there,but be overgrown now.
                      cheers

                      You have probably ridden on it without knowing it. That dead straight section that now ends with a dam at the end of it. Located off the left hand side of sunnyside road only about 1km from where sunnyside road intersects with blackfellow hands rd.

                      Dont know much about its history in the war years but member Pounce (now in WA) mentioned in another thread that it was used by forestry for spraying the pines with crop dusters back in the 70's. His family lived at the newnes prison camp as his old man was one of the head honchos.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sb_250y View Post
                        Been in there, some of it you can ride right into the back of the base no fences We make a habit of staying away as there is heaps of excellent riding without that bit up there.

                        We saw some big mortar shells (empty) lying around.

                        One of the tracks, absolute snot if you were to ride it, ends up at the back of endless belt co? next door to the Army base. Then you ride up the gully around someones farmhouse & back onto the ridge following the powerlines
                        That sounds like the track i headed down and i did ride past some cylindrical "army green" things in a creek bed.

                        The track was just the kind of riding i like up there.Most of the known single is flogged out or rutted.
                        Wallowing in my ingorance 😎

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by hillbilly450 View Post
                          That sounds like the track i headed down and i did ride past some cylindrical "army green" things in a creek bed.

                          The track was just the kind of riding i like up there.Most of the known single is flogged out or rutted.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bob64 View Post
                            Whats your new toy Mick ???
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                            Who said too much power is bad.

                            This thing scares me stupid, I love it.

                            except for the suspension
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by hillbilly450 View Post
                              That sounds like the track i headed down and i did ride past some cylindrical "army green" things in a creek bed.

                              The track was just the kind of riding i like up there.Most of the known single is flogged out or rutted.
                              I'm thinking the track you found is good for 140k's + if it's the "type" of track you like Mick

                              Now's the time to start cutting in some new stuff after the back burning that was done a few weeks ago
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                              In hindsight I should have known better and read the signs like "the speed in the carpark" and comments like "that was awesome" after the transport out to the single track.

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