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  • silverfox
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    I have heard Whispers of a Sherco Adventure bike soon

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  • tmac450
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    Originally posted by Jimmy View Post
    I wont be even thinking about anything entirely dirt biased like the 790 or T700. the 1190 is even possibly too dirt biased, i aim to ride one this sat.

    I do want lots of power, when you pass a road train you want to do it at warp, i dont want to sit next to one while i wind up 70hp. So plenty power on the hwy is good. 160hp offroad is about 120 more than i would need My offroad will be dirt roads and easy tracks.

    Which GS have you got?



    I don't have a GS, was considering one when I got the 1190.

    My brother and a few friends have the GS. They seem to prefer the one below the full-on adventure model as the tank is smaller and easier to manage off road.

    The 1190 drops to 100hp in off road mode, which is still more than the GS' peak output.

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  • Jimmy
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    I wont be even thinking about anything entirely dirt biased like the 790 or T700. the 1190 is even possibly too dirt biased, i aim to ride one this sat.

    I do want lots of power, when you pass a road train you want to do it at warp, i dont want to sit next to one while i wind up 70hp. So plenty power on the hwy is good. 160hp offroad is about 120 more than i would need My offroad will be dirt roads and easy tracks.

    Which GS have you got?




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  • tmac450
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    Originally posted by Jimmy View Post

    I am look at the 1190R. I know yours in the S, but how have you found it on long trips? We are going to do a lap in 2021 on maybe 80/20 road to dirt and i think 1190 would idea for me. When not doing big tours, does it still entice you jump on each weekend, or do you wish you have a tracer or something more road oriented?
    Sorry, don't know why I put S, mine is an R.

    I'm loving it and always look forward to riding it, especially off road. I've been known to ride to work on it some days just for a reason to ride it (and I'm not the biggest fan of road riding).

    It was always a toss up between this and a BMW GS. The Bimmer is nicer on the road, but not quite as planted off road.

    The 1190 is an absolute power house on the road and is listed in the top 50 fastest road bikes of all time if you're into that sort of thing.

    Biggest trip I've done is a 2 dayer at about 450ks per day and am doing another one with more off road and similar distance weekend after next. An enduro bike on a similar trip is utter torture for rider and machine, on the ADV bike it's pure bliss by comparison.

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  • Jimmy
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    Originally posted by tmac450 View Post
    Nah, the big heavy beasts are a hoot in the rough stuff.

    Recent'y picked up a low k KTM 1190 Adventure S.

    Have taken it down some tracks many wouldn't dream of taking their hard core enduro bikes. The weight adds to the comedy of it all, wouldn't do it any other way.

    Chasing the light bikes, you may as well just fit a big tank to an enduro bike and be done with it.

    Will be doing a two dayer this weekend and can't wait.
    I am look at the 1190R. I know yours in the S, but how have you found it on long trips? We are going to do a lap in 2021 on maybe 80/20 road to dirt and i think 1190 would idea for me. When not doing big tours, does it still entice you jump on each weekend, or do you wish you have a tracer or something more road oriented?

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  • mr bergman
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  • CB23
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    Originally posted by Pete40 View Post
    Bring on the Chinga 701 for $8k for those who can't afford a KTM/Husky. Oh, that's right, it's called a DR! Where TF is qwerty when we need him?
    Exactly, I love my DR650 more than any bike I've owned.
    It travels long distance, has never broken down (20K km), keeps with most bikes on high speed stuff, I can make it stay with most bikes on dirt tracks, it carries plenty of gear when required, costs stuff all for rego, low maintenance (except I over maintain it), I can pick it up no problems, I carry spares for most potential issues, GO THE DR650!!!!

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  • mr bergman
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    Originally posted by Pete40 View Post

    When I was a young fella and my grandparents still remembered clearly WW2, my grandma wouldn't have anything "made in Japan" in the house. Now people reckon "made in Japan" is a good thing - ya DR love-boy. The grandkids in future will be saying how great things "made in China" are, but they're getting so expensive! The world turns bud - it ain't flat.
    Don't be jealous, with a few years of dedicated riding training you too might eventualy be able to handle the power of a DR650 and upgrade from that doughy KTM 690....

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  • Pete40
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    Originally posted by mr bergman View Post

    I'll be a substitute qwerty... the DR650 is still 100% manufactured in Japan, not China! Get your facts right, you chainsaw-wielding pumpkin rider.

    It is an interesting debate though. This whole 'make your home country great' plays fine to the masses but how do you find a balance between benefiting from free trade and protecting your local industries through tariffs? I've got no real answers, and not starting a debate. But it's an interesting point.
    When I was a young fella and my grandparents still remembered clearly WW2, my grandma wouldn't have anything "made in Japan" in the house. Now people reckon "made in Japan" is a good thing - ya DR love-boy. The grandkids in future will be saying how great things "made in China" are, but they're getting so expensive! The world turns bud - it ain't flat.

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  • mr bergman
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    Originally posted by silverfox View Post
    Mine is a 17, First of the counterbalanced engine. KTM did not get that engine till 19/20. 20 model has the big changes which I don't want, Traction contro,l lean angle sensor and a heap of other crap that should not be on a dirt bike, I do still have abs on the front wheel though.
    Yes same pump. I typed in the part number and it comes up. KTM one even has made in china on it, Could not tell them apart when side by side. The same pump is used in a lot of brands, Yamaha etc, it is the housing that is different.
    Can't say I'm keen on too much electronics with any bike, but especially an adventure bike if you break down miles from anywhere. I was reading yesterday about guys with 2019 models having issues with the traction control, rev limiter coming in too early, engine light problems (sometimes with the engine stalling too) - one owner was given a new bike when KTM couldn't resolve the problem. Apparently the occasional leaking countershaft seals and failing clutch slave cylinder failures from earlier models are still an issue in 2019/2020.

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  • mr bergman
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    Originally posted by Pete40 View Post
    This whole "made in China" debate is becoming moot. What are we gonna do? Make America great again - make Australia great again? Get real, stuff we buy is Chinese made.

    Was having a convo with an old hand on chainsaws in town the other day, he buys all his rebuild parts for Stihls on line cheap. I mean $30 for a piston kit. I myself bought a carby, coil, plug, air filter, hoses for $29.95 and fixed a saw that the local shop quoted me $600+ to fix (admittedly it still has a score in the piston and bore, but works good enough as a 3rd saw/spare). I could buy 3 of those kits and still be way ahead if two of them were sh1t.

    Bring on the Chinga 701 for $8k for those who can't afford a KTM/Husky. Oh, that's right, it's called a DR! Where TF is qwerty when we need him?
    I'll be a substitute qwerty... the DR650 is still 100% manufactured in Japan, not China! Get your facts right, you chainsaw-wielding pumpkin rider.

    It is an interesting debate though. This whole 'make your home country great' plays fine to the masses but how do you find a balance between benefiting from free trade and protecting your local industries through tariffs? I've got no real answers, and not starting a debate. But it's an interesting point.

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  • silverfox
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    Originally posted by mr bergman View Post

    Which year model? I heard there was a pile of changes in the 2019 model...
    Apparently the fuel pumps for KTM four strokes are made in China now so chances are the cheap one from Ali Baba is from the same factory.
    Mine is a 17, First of the counterbalanced engine. KTM did not get that engine till 19/20. 20 model has the big changes which I don't want, Traction contro,l lean angle sensor and a heap of other crap that should not be on a dirt bike, I do still have abs on the front wheel though.
    Yes same pump. I typed in the part number and it comes up. KTM one even has made in china on it, Could not tell them apart when side by side. The same pump is used in a lot of brands, Yamaha etc, it is the housing that is different.

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  • Pete40
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    This whole "made in China" debate is becoming moot. What are we gonna do? Make America great again - make Australia great again? Get real, stuff we buy is Chinese made.

    Was having a convo with an old hand on chainsaws in town the other day, he buys all his rebuild parts for Stihls on line cheap. I mean $30 for a piston kit. I myself bought a carby, coil, plug, air filter, hoses for $29.95 and fixed a saw that the local shop quoted me $600+ to fix (admittedly it still has a score in the piston and bore, but works good enough as a 3rd saw/spare). I could buy 3 of those kits and still be way ahead if two of them were sh1t.

    Bring on the Chinga 701 for $8k for those who can't afford a KTM/Husky. Oh, that's right, it's called a DR! Where TF is qwerty when we need him?

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  • mr bergman
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    Originally posted by silverfox View Post
    Got a 701 Husky. Love it yes had a fuel pump fail, KTM part, Warrenty fixed it and I bought a spare of Ali barba for $27 delivered. Great bike. Fitted a rade tank in place of the airbox, 19lts of fuel on board now, Will take it anywhere an enduro bike will go, and still cruise at 140 down the black top. Weight was the reason for a 701. Still do all the jumps at the local mx track, Wanted an Africa twin but at 240 kg I would never pick it up. 701 at around 165kg full of fuel. its a no brainer, No fear of getting somwhere down a track and not being able to get out.
    Which year model? I heard there was a pile of changes in the 2019 model...
    Apparently the fuel pumps for KTM four strokes are made in China now so chances are the cheap one from Ali Baba is from the same factory.

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