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    Hi,
    I'm wondering if anyone has put a Rekluse clutch on their 350? I have a 2014 model which I love in every other way except for it's power delivery. It's a very 'revvy' bike which goes like the clappers when you're on it, but in my old age I'm more of a 'lugger'. I'm wondering how much torque is gained by using a Rekluse? My dilemma is to either sell the bike and go the more torquey 390, or go the Rekluse and get more out of it. My preference would be to go the rekluse and keep what I have as it's so well set up otherwise, and still has relatively low hours. I don't want to splash the cash on a Rekluse and be disappointed and wish that I hadn't. Cheers. Glen.
    I love dirtbikes!!

  • #2
    A couple of extra teeth on the rear sprocket would probably make more of a difference and wouldn’t cost you every last shred of your dignity?
    Beta 200RR

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Spac View Post
      A couple of extra teeth on the rear sprocket would probably make more of a difference and wouldn’t cost you every last shred of your dignity?
      Lol!! Yes, they're not cheap. I'm currently running 13/50. It tops out very quickly with that as it is. If it were to make a substantial difference though i'd certainly consider it. The cost of selling, rebuying, and resetting up will be a whole lot more than the price of a rekluse.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Spac View Post
        A couple of extra teeth on the rear sprocket would probably make more of a difference and wouldn’t cost you every last shred of your dignity?


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        • #5
          I put one on my Fx350 a Cx Radius. Well worth the investment. I would have sold the bike already if I didn't
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          2019 Husqvarna Tx300

          2017 Husqvarna Fx350

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          • #6
            I think you will gain more from a flywheel weight, if there is one available for your bike.

            I've done the works to my ktm200 and the single best value ridability mod was the flywheel weight. The difference was night/day and I didn't lose revvy'ness in general riding. I could just lug a taller gear with less clutch and go slower up hills.

            I have had a rekluse on a previous bike and it tended to compensate for poor/lazy clutch modulation. I wouldn't say there was any gain in torque, I could just hit a hill in 3rd and know all would be fine. It definitely wasn't a bad thing but the benefits aren't enough for me to consider putting one in another bike considering what they're worth these days. But each to their own. As far as I'm concerned it's not cheating because you have to cough up the coin and the time installing it into your bike (you're not getting it for nothing). If you have the money and want to do it, just do it. You won't really know what it's like until you're riding it. Which is kinda why I did it .... curiosity.
            It pumps one way and then it pumps the other...
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            • #7
              I've had three 350's with Rekluse clutches, 350XCF-W, 350 XCF & now a 350 EXC. As above the posts indicate there is no real torque gain from the Rekuse however you can be lazier over technical stuff & up hills.
              For me, as I race, it avoids the odd flame-out (particularly on the XCF) & allows me to run a left hand rear brake. If I was just trail riding I would not spend the extra cash.
              More torque on a 350 is easily gained by muffler mods to allow a straight through exhaust on the std muffler at not much extra noise, or installing an FMF muffler (noisier) as well as TPS adjustment to richen it up after the muffler mod on your 2014 model. With the latter models some guys are putting vortex ECU's on as well but these are exy.
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              • #8
                Edit : just saw ECRider post after I posted, agree with his sentiments.

                Glenn I cant comment on a Recluse on a 350 or on anything for that sake, however
                There's plenty of things you can do to your 350F to bring it in line with your riding style.

                A free flow muffler will add low down torque - in my case a SX muffler added reasonable amounts straight off the bottom.
                Wont turn it into a 450 but is noticeable, nice addition and takes some of the pressure off the right wrist to get it just right when out on the trail.

                Remap with someone like Rex Fleiter gets the tick of approval from all that have done used him.
                So does a tuneable ignition unit like the Vortex.
                Both the above will bring in more lowdown torque allowing you to ride it with less upper mid revs where the instantaneous rear wheel spinup
                is the issue.

                Biggest single improve=ment to my '12 350 was changing up to a 120/100 rear tyre.
                I was looking to jetison the 100/100 and did seek out a 120/80 but I think they are rather rare...depending on the brand.
                Whilst the 120/100 did cause the rear to sit marginally higher and quicken the steering, I feel I can pick the difference in traction And rear wheel steer control. The bigger foot print and changed profile is definately noticeable And I just felt the 100 rear is to small a contact patch for the 350. Hence when it is in a marginal traction situation - recent rain, red clay soil, steep uphill where you have to give it the ponies due to the incline - the chance of the rear tyre spinning up is always there.

                All of the above tho will amount to little unless you adopt two different ride styles.
                Both changed my enjoyment / competency greatly.
                1/ Cover the clutch and use it at all and anytime.
                2/ Ride it in a '1/2 gear higher. Now Obv don't try to bog it down etc.
                But I found if you say can be for instance in 2nd / third in the revving freely upper mid range OR
                knock it up a gear be prepared to fan the clutch and with plenty of throttle get it to pull out of 3500 to 4000rpm on and into that
                mid range I speak of , it not only gets better traction the crazy instant rev spinup dilutes or disappears .
                And the extra throttle seems to change the ignition / engine mapping and this motor feels much much more towards a 450 than an overly steroided high revving 250.

                Give it a go if you haven't for a ride or two.
                GL
                Ps try softening up your suspension allround till it tells you you've gone too far!

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                • #9
                  Some excellent feedback there gents, thank you. I'm off the rekluse idea to be honest. I emailed rekluse and asked them about how much torque their products would add to my my bike and they said that their products won't work on a 2014 Factory Editiion, which is what mine is. Apparently they have a different clutch to the rest of the 2014 Beta 350's. Thats ok, as it removes that really expensive option as a choice.

                  RM Jay84, that is just the sort of feedback I was looking for. I'm not really curious about auto clutch, I feel that my clutch skills are adequate for the riding I do. I have searched for a flywheel weight online for my 350 but I can't seem to find any.

                  EC Rider, my 350 has an FMF. There is no doubt that it's better without the baffle, but the noise really is quite obnoxious. I'm showing my age here, but as a younger man I used to ride a TT600R with a staintune without the baffle and I loved that raw loud bark. But alas, I'm old now and like to limit my noise where possible, I'll re look at it though and weigh up the benefits. I've just had to google TPS adjustment as I'd never really heard of it. I'll admit that from the short bit I've read it's a bit beyond my skill/confidence level messing with that sort of stuff. I'll ask my mechanic about it. I've also had a bit of a search for Vortex EVU's for the 350, but it would appear they don't cater for Beta's.

                  Motoxfox, I'll definitely be getting in touch with Rex Fleiter and see what he can do for me. I did a bit of research about him last night and I could find nothing but praise for his work. I'm in 2 minds about your tyre advice. I'm currently running a 120/100 and you're right, the traction it provides is excellent. I was weighing up going back to a smaller tyre as I noticed the difference with the bigger diameter of the 120/100, but gee that traction is something else. I have a few options there, I'm currently running 13/50, and might go to 13/52 first and then maybe experiment with the tyres. Thanks for the riding tips, i'll give them ago. It's been so long since I fanned a clutch in anger, that I'd kind of forgotten about it as a riding option. Again, showing my age there. I've definitely been riding in the higher gear with lower revs, which is a result of years of riding bigger bikes and adopting a more relaxed flowing style of riding as the years roll by.
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                  • #10
                    A little update. I've been in contact with Steahly Flywheel weights, and while there is no actual model specific flywheel weight for my bike, they have asked me to send some pictures and dimensions of the existing flywheel to see if there isn't something else that might work. I have gaskets coming in the mail, when I get them I'll send those things off.

                    I also took the baffle out just now and took it for a spin. It's definitely more responsive down low. Didn't seem quite as noisy as I remembered it being before I put the baffle in. I guess the noise is not so much of an issue if i'm lugging much of the time??
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                    • #11
                      4T noise carries much further than 2T noise. This is my experience living near a private motocross track

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                      • #12
                        Yes, I'm aware. Just experimenting with it.
                        I love dirtbikes!!

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                        • #13
                          A flywheel-weight is certainly worth a try... So I'd encourage you to try that:
                          However, "Steahly Flywheel weights" maybe seeking to hide...Stealthfully?
                          If their worth their/any salt, it's not Rocket Science, about-an even-balance.

                          p.s. I'm belatedly trying to be pretty with my fancy-babbling bullshit-bravado.
                          My point is; if they can't/don't make a weight; I'd doubt they wipe their arses.
                          p.s. If I may be bothered (in my dreams). I'd fashion a weight: It would work.

                          What's a weight anyways? except a big-fat washer-plate bolted to the wheel.
                          Balance is a-the issue; they'd pass the buck & blame you-for potential-issue.
                          So suss-out balance yourself; with an-even wipe of snot; it should-fly-evenly.

                          Edit: Even more hypothetically pissed & bent of me; this is what I'd likely do:
                          I'd pull the flywheel & figure a way to spin it @ 9000 revs: Stuff knows how?
                          I can/could then-tell if-it's out-of balance with the weight... If I got that right?

                          Edit2: In any case... Worst case scenario... It's out by ~1/3 of it's weight?
                          I've no idea if you'd notice vibration; or-if bearings would fail prematurely.
                          I'd say give it a go; there's likely no-drama; you're smarter than 'Stealthy'.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by hairyone View Post
                            A flywheel-weight is certainly worth a try... So I'd encourage you to try that:
                            However, "Steahly Flywheel weights" maybe seeking to hide...Stealthfully?
                            If their worth their/any salt, it's not Rocket Science, about-an even-balance.

                            p.s. I'm belatedly trying to be pretty with my fancy-babbling bullshit-bravado.
                            My point is; if they can't/don't make a weight; I'd doubt they wipe their arses.
                            p.s. If I may be bothered (in my dreams). I'd fashion a weight: It would work.

                            What's a weight anyways? except a big-fat washer-plate bolted to the wheel.
                            Balance is a-the issue; they'd pass the buck & blame you-for potential-issue.
                            So suss-out balance yourself; with an-even wipe of snot; it should-fly-evenly.

                            Edit: Even more hypothetically pissed & bent of me; this is what I'd likely do:
                            I'd pull the flywheel & figure a way to spin it @ 9000 revs: Stuff knows how?
                            I can/could then-tell if-it's out-of balance with the weight... If I got that right?

                            Edit2: In any case... Worst case scenario... It's out by ~1/3 of it's weight?
                            I've no idea if you'd notice vibration; or-if bearings would fail prematurely.
                            I'd say give it a go; there's likely no-drama; you're smarter than 'Stealthy'.
                            I'm flattered by your faith in me H1, sadly I have the patience of a 6 year and am probably as petulant as one

                            It's a big deal for me taking the casing off the engine and putting it back on as I have never done this previously, so I'll leave any potential flywheel weight for the 'experts'.

                            I love dirtbikes!!

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                            • #15
                              Re, the gearing. You need to go to a smaller rear sprocket in my opinion, not larger. That will make the gearing a little taller and you use the existing torque to full advantage. It will be like lugging it in a higher gear, it won’t rev out as quick and it will be harder to spin the wheel too easily, also you’ll get a higher top speed. Is 13/50 the standard gearing for this bike? I would’ve thought that 13/48 or even 13/47 would be better as an alround gearing choice.

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