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  • Honda's big fat red pig

    As an ex Honda owner I was pleased to see they've finally pulled their thumbs outta their arses but seriously WTF is with the weight on these new CRF450L's?!
    125-131kg!
    Cush drive!
    Scud missile launcher muffler!
    Road trail tyres!

    Is this more of the gender neutral/PC/gay marriage brigade's doing?!!

    Not mad Honda, just bitterly, bitterly disappointed.
    '18 GG XC250!

  • #2
    Well, what do you want & expect shawbagga?
    You can see that's inadequate; as it surely is.

    Imo; 50hp+ is essential for road use; cush-drive is their panacea for their weak gearbox.
    I'd be contemplating an "old" Husky 630 motor (6 gears) as-in the relatively cheap SWM.

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    • #3
      Honda "L" models have always been detuned puss boxes.

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      • #4
        They already have the x and rx models?
        The L sounds like it might be a good base for an adventure bike?

        Iím guessing more powerful and lighter than a DRZ400 or DR650?


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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mini Me View Post
          They already have the x and rx models?
          The L sounds like it might be a good base for an adventure bike?

          Iím guessing more powerful and lighter than a DRZ400 or DR650?


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          • #6
            http://www.advpulse.com/adv-bikes/20...50l-announced/

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            • #7
              I'm told we will only get the L model as the X won't be ADR(like the RX). Crap by Honda if this is true.
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              • #8
                The X was the bike I think most on here would be looking for. It would be interesting to know the complete difference between the X and L, but the L is very much aimed at the dual sport market.

                IMO Honda Australia would be better to drop the RX and bring in an ADR'd X. If they are going to have 3 450's in their line up, having a pure MX, Off-road and Road Trail would cover more sub-categories than MX, XC and Dual Sport.

                I don't think it would take that much effort to drop 10+KG's off that L. I'm sure more than a few will be looking at it.
                Spending more time in here than out there these days...

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                • #9
                  You guys are so busy hating

                  They are releasing an X version, saying not in Oz at the moment, but they said that about the rx initially as well.

                  The L version will be the go to bike for ADV'ers (125kg before weight saving- because kerb weight means full tank of fuel).

                  18Ē cush drive hub
                  32,000km rebuild intervals
                  Three ring piston
                  Larger radiator with fan
                  Six-Speed
                  Top the of line 49mm race grade fork

                  Better than converting a new wr (or ktm) that has 2 ring piston and 3 teaspoons of oil

                  I think it's a nice common ground between performance sacrifices and long term durability that the old WR's and even XR's had.

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                  • #10
                    . It's a trail bike .

                    They will sell squill ions of em.

                    That's the business .

                    If it's half as good as the 250 L

                    IT,LL BE brilliant ..


                    There's a lot of history, and development behind the L ,s

                    Go anywhere , in comfort , and it,ll cope with zero maintinance .

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                    • #11
                      Looks like a nice trailbike, much better than a DRZ. The only real negative is the tiny tank but I'm sure there will be solutions to that soon enough.

                      If I was doing longer trailrides (VHC?) and not technical single track it would be top of my list.

                      People have been crying out for a 450 to adventurise and this looks ideal.
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                      • #12
                        It's a fair bit lighter, higher performance and alot more expensive than a 250L.

                        Seem to be the stepping stone to the high performance 450 honda rally everyone was asking for ?

                        I see they are recommending 1000km service intervals probably playing it safe. 1250ml of oil.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Craigy View Post
                          Looks like a nice trailbike, much better than a DRZ.

                          The only real negative is the tiny tank but I'm sure there will be solutions to that soon enough.

                          If I was doing longer trailrides (VHC?) and not technical single track it would be top of my list.

                          People have been crying out for a 450 to adventurise and this looks ideal.
                          Now that would be a good comparison / write-up . . .
                          Time and tide . .

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                          • #14
                            Or an SWM 500r for 9k ,
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                            • #15
                              I don't get this bike, chassis wise it's great. But...a converted MX motor with 1000km service intervals? 32,000 rebuilds? 1250ml sump is about what a WR250 runs...

                              I'm betting a DRZ400 with RMZ front end would be a better and cheaper option. Oh, and a titanium tank, cannot wait to check the RRP on that bad boy.
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