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  • #46
    I remember some stuff in a spray can you can get to remove old gaskets - sorry but can't remember the name of it - try repco or supercheap they may know what I'm talking about. Or you could cover the bearings and just use a small wire wheel on a drill "lightly" of course.
    Finally off the bench but just taking it easy.

    2008 KLX450R

    2000 XR400R - Gone to a new home-smile

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    • #47


      I'm gonna change my name to Steve and call my bike Austin.
      Last edited by Battered Sav; 15-07-2012, 07:26 PM.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Krackers View Post


        I'm gonna change my name to Steve and call my bike Austin.
        Better, stronger, faster
        Go Camry lol


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        • #49
          Originally posted by anthony_1978 View Post
          Better, stronger, faster
          Go Camry lol


          ^lol ^lol ^lol

          LOL-E-Pops!!!

          We should take my Camry out and do a remake of that vid. :grinning-
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          • #50
            Well, I just measured the inside diameter of the little end of the conrod. It seems to be in spec but it's pitted as.. When I was pulling the bottom end apart I did notice some play in the left side main bearing and the crankshaft. I haven't checked the side clearance of the crankshaft yet but it seems to be floggin' around a fair bit. I'm on a mission to pinpoint the real wear which lead to the shavings in the oil. Fully CSI. Blue gloves and all. I thank Riles for the gloves. He wears them when he cooks Bogan a la carte/ al fresco.

            I managed to swap over the centre spline, cushions, primary drive gear and thrust washer off my old *@#&*@#&*@#&*@#&ed basket onto the new shiny one. Worked out sweet. I is learning heaps of shit.

            On another note, I have to return to work tomorrow full-time after 6 full weeks off and then 3 part time weeks off all spent recovering and rebuilding myself and, more recently, some Honda tinkering. Don't wanna go back!
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Krackers View Post
              So, here's my gudgeon pin.. Probably only around 40 hours on this thing. You can see some slight pitting and wear.

              ...

              Is there any simple way to do this? I mean without having to resort to razor blades and wire brushing. Getting off old gaskets sucks and if anyone can share some secrets that'd be great.
              That's a nasty looking gudgeon pin. 40 hours? You didn't get water in the case at some stage did you? Maybe someone with more experience can comment (Tom68?)? If so - you're going to change all the bearings I suppose, seeing as its all in little bits...


              CRC Gasket Stripper is your friend. That and box-cutter blades. Spray on heaps, wait 5 minutes, scrape and repeat several times. Sometimes I use the backside of a blade because it's sharp but it's only 90 degrees so it won't actually cut into the surface - hold it in a rag or something. You could try an actual scraper with a carbide blade if you've got one.

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              • #52
                That gudgeon does look bad for 40 hours, shiny would be OK but that looks almost abraded.
                I'm no expert but I'm thinking the material you found has travelled through the engine and I'd be suspicious of all the bearings, though as I said, I'm no expert.

                $20 what a bargain, well done.

                I did the water pump on my tractor recently and in a pinch popped into the local hardware for a decent scraper for the gasket surfaces.
                They had la little blade that's supposed to be a refill for some kind of scraper, i just bought the refill pack and they work great, small, get into tight spaces and have a reinforcing rib to keep the blade true.


                I found the pic of your latex gloved fingers penetrating the clutch hub disconcertingly arousing.
                :
                Last edited by Battered Sav; 15-07-2012, 07:38 PM.
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                • #53
                  Re cleaning the case's , get a new razor blade and just run it along. Usually with original gaskets theres no sealant and they just lift up with a razor . Then get a rubbing stone wide enough to do both surfaces at once.

                  Failing that just put em in the oven at 275c for about an hour 45 , and job done.



















                  (don't put in oven)

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by cowpat View Post
                    That's a nasty looking gudgeon pin. 40 hours? You didn't get water in the case at some stage did you? Maybe someone with more experience can comment (Tom68?)? If so - you're going to change all the bearings I suppose, seeing as its all in little bits...

                    CRC Gasket Stripper is your friend. That and box-cutter blades. Spray on heaps, wait 5 minutes, scrape and repeat several times. Sometimes I use the backside of a blade because it's sharp but it's only 90 degrees so it won't actually cut into the surface - hold it in a rag or something. You could try an actual scraper with a carbide blade if you've got one.
                    Yeah Casper, 40 hours or so. I've never drowned this bike but it has done some sick as bro water crossings. ALL bearings are being changed, that's the awesome thing about Hondas, spare parts are so well priced you'd be silly not to do 'em all when the donk is split.

                    Also, I think my missus won't be too happy if I'm spending hours in the shed with a stripper. But, I'll try it I think. I really want to try and retain the integrity of the original surfaces as the last thing I'd want is leaking cases after putting the *@#&*@#&*@#&*@#&er back together!

                    Originally posted by Battered Sav View Post
                    That gudgeon does look bad for 40 hours, shiny would be OK but that looks almost abraded.
                    I'm no expert but I'm thinking the material you found has travelled through the engine and I'd be suspicious of all the bearings, though as I said, I'm no expert.

                    $20 what a bargain, well done.

                    I did the water pump on my tractor recently and in a pinch popped into the local hardware for a decent scraper for the gasket surfaces.
                    They had la little blade that's supposed to be a refill for some kind of scraper, i just bought the refill pack and they work great, small, get into tight spaces and have a reinforcing rib to keep the blade true.


                    I found the pic of your latex gloved fingers penetrating the clutch hub disconcertingly arousing.
                    :
                    Hmm, penetrated clutch hub.


                    Originally posted by maxx668 View Post
                    Re cleaning the case's , get a new razor blade and just run it along. Usually with original gaskets theres no sealant and they just lift up with a razor . Then get a rubbing stone wide enough to do both surfaces at once.

                    Failing that just put em in the oven at 275c for about an hour 45 , and job done.



















                    (don't put in oven)
                    ^lol I actually thought the oven was a good idea.

                    Should I be using 3 bond when I put new gaskets on? I've got a tube of it sitting around from doig the reed block on my KDX years ago. Now Maxx668, you mention a rubbing stone.. I did a search on it and only came up with people claiming magical powers and shit.
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                    • #55
                      So, yeah, in-line with how I'm feeling about going back to work, I went into the shed and grabbed the hammer.



                      I thought I'd just pop out a few bearings and what not. The pic above is the balancer bearing which I had to destroy so I could fit the bearing puller in. Thanks to Streaker for the loan of the bearing puller. It works well!

                      Getting bearings out is something I'm starting to get a feel for. To get out the left main bearing I used my Honda retainer tool. Worked a treat!



                      The right main was a different story altogether. I am holding a grudge against it because it killed my "quality" Kinchrome torx bit. Needless to say, I have to go and buy a "high quality" torx bit (sz 27). The bearing retainers on the right main are so *@#&*@#&*@#&*@#&ing tight.




                      Oh yeah, on my new clutch hub (the one that Sav has a thing for) I had to torque the screws and I'm supposed to peen them, apparently. I'm scared of this. Will post up other random shite later.

                      Cheers. :grinning-
                      Thanks for just being human.

                      Top/bottom end rebuild thread CRF250X.. Click here.

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                      • #56
                        I like this thread
                        Pull more shit off and smash it with a hammer
                        Spewing about the RHS main bearing. Can you drill the head
                        Then use multi grips to get the *@#&*@#&*@#&*@#&er off?

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                        • #57
                          Might want to try a bit of heat on that before you trash another torx bit.
                          Pete.
                          '02 TL1000R.'04 450 EXC. '05 KX250F'16 200 EXC.

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                          • #58
                            Krackers, keep the random shitte posts coming,

                            You ask the question..."Should I be using 3 bond when I put new gaskets on? I've got a tube of it sitting around from doig the reed block on my KDX years ago"

                            Some else more experienced may know better but I would not. Smooth, flat and clean surfaces plus a new gasket is all you need IMO.

                            Pity about the torx bit, there is always something isn't there, usually just when are on a roll too.
                            Current: 250 & 125 2T & 250 4T

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                            • #59
                              Yep threebond 1215 is the stuff for case's . Stone wise , look for sharping stones. For knifes etc

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                              • #60
                                There's some new crank on the streets.

                                Okey dokey, got a BIG parcel today from MrCycles. It contains my first load of parts for the Honda, including a new crankshaft. I decided to do a quick comparison. Watch it and you can see how faarked the old crankshaft actually is.



                                I'm pretty sure my search for the shavings has ended.

                                I picked up a nifty little propane torch and a new torx bit and am hoping to get in the shed for a bit tonight.

                                I've made another order with MrCycles because I'm going to replace all the transmission bearings too and I've gotta say, MrCycles rocks! They assign one customer service bloke/ette to look after you and the one I've got, Brad, is quick on emails, happy to quickly include something you forgot to order and also provide rather large discounts. For example, my last order totalled approx $440 and he just reduced it to $390 shipped, just because. Thanks for putting me onto them Disco. :grinning-
                                Thanks for just being human.

                                Top/bottom end rebuild thread CRF250X.. Click here.

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