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  • #31
    Mate great write up, im like you last year. reading all about it tryin to prepare myself for the trek to finke. Have a friend who done it for the first time this year and i dont want to miss it next year. Cheers again for the read!
    Cheers MattyDucati


    Current rides
    250sxf 13mod R1 09mod 07 rm125 too many kids bikes

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    • #32
      Originally posted by MattyDucati View Post
      Mate great write up, im like you last year. reading all about it tryin to prepare myself for the trek to finke. Have a friend who done it for the first time this year and i dont want to miss it next year. Cheers again for the read!
      Good luck with it mate. You won't regret doing it.

      I won't be there next year, but 2014 is another story.

      Just ask any questions and I will try to answer them.


      Below is a conversation I had with a mate on Facebook that wanted some info about racing quads out there.


      July 10
      Craig

      Hey Nathan...curious to know what you thought of Finke? Was it harder or easier than you thought? And were you prepared for it? What would you change now you've been once?

      Cheers

      craig

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      July 10
      Nathan

      G'day Mate. Finke was awesome!
      Finke is tough if you want to do well, but not if you just want to finish. My fittness was pretty good but I needed to work more on core strength as I was standing alot more than I expected. Riding the whoops and standing, (because it was too rough to sit) was very hard on the lower back. A rowing machine would have been good training

      Get out there early and pre-run it. I did about 800km of pre-running and I got alot more comfortable with knowing the track and what to expect on race day. It also helped my back. I did alot of riding before I went out there but I used different muscles out there because of the whoops. It also helps with gearing choice and suspension setup.

      I have some good riding tracks here in Gundy which I think may resemble the whoops of Finke better than Hooks place (Hooks is good though). I am also president of the MX Club so if you ever want to ride either MX or whoops just let me know. We ride most weekends.

      I passed most quads in the whoops because it is where you guys are slowest. This is where you need to train the most. You will travel as quick as the bikes in the smooth fast stuff and faster in the big sweeping corners. Master the whoops and you will do well.

      The link below is my ride report for a forum I am on. (Im Gibbit) it may help.

      Please ask me questions I love to talk about Finke.

      Cheers.
      Nathan.

      http://www.dirtbikeworld.net/forum/s...=1#post1462123



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      July 11
      Craig

      Thanks for that Nathan. That was a good write up. I am on that forum under the name 'surfin'. I got a heap of questions I'll ask them as I think of them?

      - what would you do different if you went again?
      - did you need to pee during the race?
      - did you have a problem with the high speeds and the helmet peak pulling your head back?
      - the club stops...how many people could they service at once ?

      Thats it for now i think

      Cheers

      Craig

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      July 11
      Nathan

      I would not change my bike setup. It was great.
      - I would do more fittness training and core strength.
      - I would not go to alice so early. (just because I have done it now). I would just get out there in time to do some prerunning and thats all. But would still tell a first timer to get there a week before the race.
      - I won't do the organised prerun again on the sunday before. Its a waste of money. (unless Hook does it as its still fun.)
      Knowone gets in trouble for prerunning the track. But cover your race numbers just in case.

      - I tried not to over hydrate myself (so I would need a piss stop) but was doing so many nervous pisses before the race, that I had to drink a far bit. Once that flag drops, a piss was the last thing on my mind.

      -The helmet was fine at speed as it was a tight fit. But my goggles kept pushing up my face so the nose part was across my eyes. (really pissed me off) A strip of foam glued to the top of my goggles would stop that because the foam would fill the gap between the goggles and helmet. (hope this makes sense).

      GET ROSE TINT GOGGLE LENSES!! They are awsome for seeing the depth of the woops and I have found they are great here at home for general riding too.

      -There were about 4-6 spots to fuel up at each club stop and they were all usually empty. They are very efficient. I will try to put a youtube video up of one or two of my stops. I had the helmet cam on for the whole race.

      Cheers.
      Nathan.

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      July 11
      Craig

      So with the whoops, was it your back or legs that copped it the most? What sort of physical training did you do leading up to the race?

      What is the best way to handle the whoops?

      How many quads did you pass? And was it in the whoops mainly?

      What would you do to go quicker?

      Cheers

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      July 12
      Nathan

      I think the legs and back cop the most. My legs were not too bad as I did alot of cycleing before the race.

      I followed Michelle Bridges (From Biggest Loser) book called "Crunch Time" for cross training. Tried to do 30 mins in the morning about 3-4 days a week.
      I rode the mountain bike 10-14km 3-4 times a week. On weekends I would ride the bike and try to do a few 30min and 60min rides non-stop, and try to push pretty hard. Didn't happen very often though

      Don't know about the whoops on a quad. I tried to make sure I got the front wheel over the crest of each one (which is hard when your stuffed). If you didn't there is a good chance of falling off. Smacking into the face of each whoop can also really take it out of you. Getting out there and prerunning will teach you how to "surf" the woops. One important thing is if you do get a bit *@#&*@#&*@#&*@#&ed up in the whoops, give it heaps of throttle and the bike generaly straigtens up and pulls you through a disaster.

      I gained about 40 positions in the race, 10 would have been quads. The thing is though, that these same riders past me in sections they where better than me at. So I past some of these riders up to 5 times. I may have overtaken up to 90 riders, its
      just that some where overtaken more than once.
      Quads where definetly easy to pass in the woops as they were alot slower there. I would slowly catch up to a quad in the smoother stuff and then in the woops you would catch them really quick.

      If you get a good prolouge time you will have less slow riders to pass on race day.

      To go quicker I would have worked on my fittness more and learn how to ride the track better.
      Its hard doing the race and knowing you have the riding ability to go faster but your body just won't let you go quicker cause your physically rooted..

      Probably the most important thing is to stay within your limits both with pre-running and racing. Too many go out there and get hurt even before the race and always remember Shmitty. It is a 2-4hr race each way. You cannot sprint it. You must pace yourself.

      While prerunning, try to go right through from Finke to Alice (or vice versa) in one day. This will give you an idea what to expect on race day. You will not go as fast on race day due to all the dust though.

      Try to stay away from the track for the last couple of days before the race. It will be a dangerous mix of Dick heads, ******s and drunk campers/spectators. And some guys that have just got to Alice and are trying to prerun as fast as they can and way outside their limits because they have limited time.

      You should rest before the race anyway to let you body recover.

      Most people respect the unwritten rule of prerunning south before 12 pm and northafter 12pm.

      I might have to copy and paste this to DBW as its good shit, even if I say so myself.

      Cheers.

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      July 12
      Craig

      Thanks Nathan I appreciate the time you have taken to write all this. Are you going back next yr?

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      July 12
      Nathan

      Would love to but I don't think I can afford it.

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      July 12
      Craig

      how much do you think it cost you in the end? I was thinking $5k max?

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      July 12
      Nathan

      That should be plenty.

      I used about $1,800-$2,00 for fuel.
      $580 for nomination plus $190 for club fuel.
      Estimate around $30/ night for camp site at caravan park.

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      July 12
      Craig

      ok at this stage i am flying out...so got that to pay for and fuel for Hook to drive my quad out, plus my wife won't like a swag on the ground in Alice...so need a cabin. It will add up i am sure

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      July 12
      Nathan

      I would need a new bike if I went again as mine has around 150hrs now.

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      July 12
      Craig

      really it looks so new

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      July 12
      Nathan

      I look after my bike. Probably better than my wife and three kids sometimes.

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      July 12
      Craig

      my wife would say the same thing

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      Present:2016 YZ250X
      1990 YZ490
      2014 YZ 125
      Past:2016 KTM 300EXC
      2010 YZ 250
      2007 YZ 125
      2011 YZ 450F SE
      2009 YZ 450F SE
      2001 YZ 426F
      1998 RMX 250
      1990 DT 200
      1987 YZ 80
      1984 DS 80
      1980 PW 50
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      • #33
        Seems we need a Finke 2013 thread, my prep starts this weekend.
        2012 500EXC
        02 RM250....Ringa ding ding
        KTM 530 exc ^roost sold
        KTM 690r - gone

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        • #34
          Originally posted by RedK View Post
          Seems we need a Finke 2013 thread, my prep starts this weekend.
          Easy prep for u dude!!
          https://www.facebook.com/Melissabruceenduro

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          • #35
            Originally posted by RedK View Post
            Seems we need a Finke 2013 thread, my prep starts this weekend.
            Mine 2..
            what bike you gunna run next year?
            --
            "I did not hit you! - I simply high fived your face"

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            • #36
              Holidays booked
              289 days to go
              Cheers MattyDucati


              Current rides
              250sxf 13mod R1 09mod 07 rm125 too many kids bikes

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              • #37
                KTM400, hopefully just some dunga for $2000 or so. Nothing special, in-fact i kinda hope i have the crappest looking bike there.
                2012 500EXC
                02 RM250....Ringa ding ding
                KTM 530 exc ^roost sold
                KTM 690r - gone

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by RedK View Post
                  KTM400, hopefully just some dunga for $2000 or so. Nothing special, in-fact i kinda hope i have the crappest looking bike there.
                  I have a wr400 you can have for 1,400 smackerz delivered a week before.. just hasn't got top gear 15/42 gearing and your good for 160k/hr easy enough.
                  --
                  "I did not hit you! - I simply high fived your face"

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                  • #39
                    Yeah cool, thats the kinda thing i'm after. might need it earlier. heading down track 2morro will have better idea then coz i've done some suspension work on the 690. I've got to get to Deepwell in 50 or so minutes or its not gunna happen.
                    2012 500EXC
                    02 RM250....Ringa ding ding
                    KTM 530 exc ^roost sold
                    KTM 690r - gone

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by RedK View Post
                      Yeah cool, thats the kinda thing i'm after. might need it earlier. heading down track 2morro will have better idea then coz i've done some suspension work on the 690. I've got to get to Deepwell in 50 or so minutes or its not gunna happen.
                      Day one I did Alice to Deepwell in 50mins 30sec.

                      On day two I did the same section in 48mins 12 secs
                      Present:2016 YZ250X
                      1990 YZ490
                      2014 YZ 125
                      Past:2016 KTM 300EXC
                      2010 YZ 250
                      2007 YZ 125
                      2011 YZ 450F SE
                      2009 YZ 450F SE
                      2001 YZ 426F
                      1998 RMX 250
                      1990 DT 200
                      1987 YZ 80
                      1984 DS 80
                      1980 PW 50
                      http://www.youtube.com/user/v8utes/videos

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by RedK View Post
                        KTM400, hopefully just some dunga for $2000 or so. Nothing special, in-fact i kinda hope i have the crappest looking bike there.
                        Mark Sladeck ran a KX 500 one year he brought for 2k and ran top 5 from memory

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                        • #42
                          Hey Gibbit awesome mate great reading. I'm a bit old in the tooth now for racing but planing a trip in 2013 to spectate with my sons. Thanks for the heads up on the rose lenses boys Carnt catch me now haha.
                          Cheers

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by rlap View Post
                            Hey Gibbit awesome mate great reading. I'm a bit old in the tooth now for racing but planing a trip in 2013 to spectate with my sons. Thanks for the heads up on the rose lenses boys Carnt catch me now haha.
                            Cheers
                            Glad I could be of help mate.
                            Present:2016 YZ250X
                            1990 YZ490
                            2014 YZ 125
                            Past:2016 KTM 300EXC
                            2010 YZ 250
                            2007 YZ 125
                            2011 YZ 450F SE
                            2009 YZ 450F SE
                            2001 YZ 426F
                            1998 RMX 250
                            1990 DT 200
                            1987 YZ 80
                            1984 DS 80
                            1980 PW 50
                            http://www.youtube.com/user/v8utes/videos

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                            • #44
                              Thanks for the awesome ride report. I wish there were more of these. Entertaining to read and lots of good info for anyone who hopes to do the Finke one day.

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                              • #45
                                I Finally got my Spike framed with some pics.

                                Wayne from Wayne Pratt Photography wanted to try something different and told me to trust him. I think it turned out pretty good except I would have prefered the spike to sit straight, but I can probably fix that.





                                It costs about $400 and I can give you Waynes details if anyone is interested.

                                .
                                Present:2016 YZ250X
                                1990 YZ490
                                2014 YZ 125
                                Past:2016 KTM 300EXC
                                2010 YZ 250
                                2007 YZ 125
                                2011 YZ 450F SE
                                2009 YZ 450F SE
                                2001 YZ 426F
                                1998 RMX 250
                                1990 DT 200
                                1987 YZ 80
                                1984 DS 80
                                1980 PW 50
                                http://www.youtube.com/user/v8utes/videos

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