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  • #16
    Originally posted by Pete40 View Post
    Hopefully the gates are just for weather events to keep the numbnuts out?
    No, I don't think that is the case. Numbnuts is correct though - plenty of them out there on bikes and 4WDs...

    My wife ran into the Head Ranger about a month ago and he said that the gates will be left open for a while (read months) - and then locked.

    We went to a presentation by NPWS and the Council a fair while ago where they described their plan for an expanded (walking) trail network - with Beerburrum as the trailhead. Relocation of the Tibro car park, plus some alterations to the Trachyte Circuit and Soldiers Settlement walk was involved, and has been completed. A new track to Mt Beerburrum from the proposed trail head has been built, as has a new Gr5 circuit from Mt Beerburrum across to Mt Tibro - joining the Trachyte circuit. (these new walking tracks are terrific btw - don't even think to try and take a bike on them...)

    The Gr5 (that means very hard) track is intended to draw people away from the Mountains - where too many people fall and are injured (and in some cases die). It traverses the side of Mt Beerburrum and other hills. It is not wheelchair friendly. You have to use your hands AND feet...

    A lot of people use these areas, so it is definitely NOT being closed off to the community. Car parks for the walks here are usually full/overflowing most days of the week.

    Expect to see more walking trails in the newly gated off zone - linking eventually to the Glass House Mountains Lookout.

    Hancock Plantations have been getting heaps of complaints from residents along Glass House Woodford Rd re: noise from trails running parallel to the road. 4T MX bikes at full tilt at 6am outside their windows upsets them for some reason...

    Anyway - the section of forest up to the lookout is going to be closed off too (they were planning to start this week). So - even if you got across from Matt Flinders, you'll meet more fences/gates soon. The walking trail will come through here I expect.

    Apart from that, it appears that most of the forest will remain open for motorised recreation for some time. Here's a quote from an email sent to one of my neighbors.

    A buffer zone of a couple of kilometres is not achievable in the Beerburrum landscape. Where possible the [walking] trail will be designed to maximise appropriate landscape setting and lower non-motorised visitor interaction with motorised recreation users. However, the majority of the Beerburrum State Forest will continue to be used to some degree for motorised recreation Ė particularly the plantation areas. This state forest has historically (for many decades) been designated for motorised recreation. Some areas will be closed off to allow for the linkage of non-motorised recreational infrastructure, but most of the state forest will remain open to legal motorised access.

    However, we should expect more scrutiny, and I'm aware that Hancock Plantations has [quote] been working on a program with the police to promote responsible recreation and a joint Forest Watch initiative. This will help the police to educate the public about what is and isnít legal (and even includes a section about being respectful of neighbours) and provide additional reporting mechanisms for residents.

    Anyway - as Don said - the area closed off isn't one that will be really missed too much by many, but access may be an issue if riders come from Matt Flinders.

    So - not all bad news.

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    • #17
      Thanks for the update Bob. Good to hear from you again.

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      • #18
        I managed to have a conversation with the NPWS regarding the whole area and Caves Rd.
        What I was told was pretty much as Bob outlined above. No concession for access on Caves Rd. Tough shit boys and girls.
        Walkers, cyclists, horse riders etc, who pay no fees have millions of dollars spent on facilities for their use. As usual bikers who pay registration and licence fees(some of us do anyway) and taxes and rates get **** all and then get locked out of areas we've been using for years.
        We'll wait and see what happens once the gates get locked.
        I guess unloading in the new car park is an option, we'll see how they like that.
        I can understand their concerns about damage being done by bikes and 4WD's in some areas, but when large areas are logged and bulldozed it's pretty hard to see how bikes can do more damage.
        I can still recall the arguments I had with the Blight-on-Queensland government when they sold off the forestry to HQ. we were assured that recreational access wouldn't be affected. yeah
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Pete40 View Post
          Thanks for the update Bob. Good to hear from you again.
          :grinning- - All good here Pete! Geez, if today's heat is an example of things to come for summer - the Freeride will be idle for a couple of months, just like last summer.

          Originally posted by DV8
          I managed to have a conversation with the NPWS regarding the whole area and Caves Rd.
          Good. They should be accessible - even if you don't agree with their decisions. Management of the forest must be a huge headache - some of the roads needed for access in case of fires etc have just been destroyed by 4WDs. I don't have an answer for a management plan. Too many entries to the forest...

          Re: the areas to be closed - I know a bloke pretty well that has spent a lot of sweat and energy clearing lantana etc for sneaky hidden warm up tracks who will be disappointed to see them go, but - if the rest of the forest stays open I'll - I mean - he'll - be happy... It's a big forest.

          When the new trail head car park is built at Beerburrum (next Fin year I think), it'll have drive though car parks - great for trailers. Toilets and Cafe across the road. Not sure if they sell chicko rolls though - you might have to drive into Glass House or Elimbah for them

          Merry Christmas!

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          • #20
            Begining of the end
            Put something exciting between your legs .^na

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            • #21
              This is sad to hear. My friends and I often park and ride from Matthew Flinders Rest Area.

              Is the new Trail Head car park meant for bush walkers or motorsport enthusiasts?
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              • #22
                Originally posted by devans View Post
                This is sad to hear. My friends and I often park and ride from Matthew Flinders Rest Area.

                Is the new Trail Head car park meant for bush walkers or motorsport enthusiasts?
                I doubt that they had motorsport enthusiasts in mind when they built it.
                I was there yesterday and had a look at the new carpark. There were no signs saying who can and can't use it. I think it will suit us well once the gates get locked and Matthew Flinders isn't convenient any more.
                We usually only go there on weekdays so overcrowding shouldn't be a problem but on weekends there could be some contention with walkers and the overnight campers, there were a few Wicked campers, Swedish backpackers et al there yesterday. It's a much quieter setting than the busy road so it will be popular.
                Last edited by DV8; 08-01-2019, 10:15 AM.
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                • #23
                  So, after more than 18 months of the gates being installed they were finally locked this week. I think they left them open to allow Plantations to finish logging and bulldozing in this new pristine national park.
                  We'll see how they look after the 4WD's have been there.:speechles
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