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  • 2018 GG stock fork valving

    Little while back someone posted up the stock Gasser EC300 fork shims etc
    Want to get a copy of it again and compare it to the Sherco KYB's setup and take what I like from both and create a nicer setup for myself

    Cheers in advance !!
    Current edition : Gas Gas EC300 18' .. ringa ding ding
    Current Ride .... Sherco - 300 SER 19' Factory


    17' Beta 300rr ... Gone & Sold
    Complement the Smoker ... Beta 480rr 15' .... Gone & sold
    Beta 250rr 16' ... Gone Written Off .. Xmas Drivers
    KTM 250 sx 2013 smoker ... Gone & Sold
    KTM 350xcf 2014 ... Gone & sold
    YZF 450 11'.. Enduroised ... Gone & Sold
    Crf450r 04' ... Gone & Sold
    CR 85 07' .. Last of the Smokers ... The daughters weapon

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    • #3
      It was me matey, should still be here in the gasser section. (The real Gasgas section)
      It is also up on the Gasgas rider forums.
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      • #4
        Here's Nate's thread - http://www.dirtbikeworld.net/forum/s...d.php?t=128222

        I wouldn't mind seeing what your Sherco setting are (if you're willing to share).

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        • #5
          I'm keen to hear your opinions on what you liked about both.. Happy to chime in with thoughts on valving stacks too..

          I remember with Nates post thinking that GG had a shiteload of float. I've actually started putting some more hours onto my 2018 and I'm not sure how I feel about it.. It's soft and supple and very comfy, but it felt rather busy when smashing into things at a decent pace.

          I haven't played the clickers to see what I've got.. but from what I know, my 2013 with KYBS has a lot less float, a firmer ICS spring, and a firmer main spring.. so no real surprise that they feel different.

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          • #6
            What did we learn?

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            • #7
              That even KYBs need work done to them


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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jakobi View Post
                I'm keen to hear your opinions on what you liked about both.. Happy to chime in with thoughts on valving stacks too..

                I remember with Nates post thinking that GG had a shiteload of float. I've actually started putting some more hours onto my 2018 and I'm not sure how I feel about it.. It's soft and supple and very comfy, but it felt rather busy when smashing into things at a decent pace.

                I haven't played the clickers to see what I've got.. but from what I know, my 2013 with KYBS has a lot less float, a firmer ICS spring, and a firmer main spring.. so no real surprise that they feel different.
                I prefer the initial part of the stroke into the Mid on the Gasser but the firmness of the Sherco Mid through to the bottoming
                I find the Sherco has quite a firm initial part of the stroke to begin with which at times can be a bit harsh in the feel where it tracks perfectly then spontaneously deflects for no apparent reason.
                Overall I like both version of the KYB's but like to have the best of them both in the one bike ^roost
                Current edition : Gas Gas EC300 18' .. ringa ding ding
                Current Ride .... Sherco - 300 SER 19' Factory


                17' Beta 300rr ... Gone & Sold
                Complement the Smoker ... Beta 480rr 15' .... Gone & sold
                Beta 250rr 16' ... Gone Written Off .. Xmas Drivers
                KTM 250 sx 2013 smoker ... Gone & Sold
                KTM 350xcf 2014 ... Gone & sold
                YZF 450 11'.. Enduroised ... Gone & Sold
                Crf450r 04' ... Gone & Sold
                CR 85 07' .. Last of the Smokers ... The daughters weapon

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                • #9
                  Here is the Sherco version .....


                  Basevalve
                  32.1(x12)
                  28.1
                  30.1
                  28.1
                  26.1
                  24.1
                  22.1
                  20.1
                  18.1
                  16.1
                  14.3(x6)

                  Midvalve Compression
                  20.1(x3)
                  18.1
                  16.1
                  14.1
                  12.1
                  11.3(x3)
                  12.3(x2)
                  20.1(x2)
                  12.25(x2)

                  Midvalve Rebound
                  20.1(x3)
                  18.1
                  16.1
                  14.1
                  13.1
                  12.1
                  11.25(x2)
                  16.3(x2)

                  Shock Compression
                  44.2(x9)
                  38.15
                  42.2
                  40.2
                  38.2
                  36.2
                  34.25
                  32.25
                  30.25
                  28.25
                  26.25
                  24.25
                  22.25
                  20.25(x2)

                  Shock Rebound
                  40.2(x5)
                  27.1
                  40.25
                  38.3
                  36.3
                  34.3
                  32.3
                  30.3
                  28.3
                  26.3
                  25.3
                  24.3(x3)
                  Current edition : Gas Gas EC300 18' .. ringa ding ding
                  Current Ride .... Sherco - 300 SER 19' Factory


                  17' Beta 300rr ... Gone & Sold
                  Complement the Smoker ... Beta 480rr 15' .... Gone & sold
                  Beta 250rr 16' ... Gone Written Off .. Xmas Drivers
                  KTM 250 sx 2013 smoker ... Gone & Sold
                  KTM 350xcf 2014 ... Gone & sold
                  YZF 450 11'.. Enduroised ... Gone & Sold
                  Crf450r 04' ... Gone & Sold
                  CR 85 07' .. Last of the Smokers ... The daughters weapon

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                  • #10
                    What's the midvalve float on the Sherco?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jakobi View Post
                      What's the midvalve float on the Sherco?
                      I saw a set apart and asked a while back think it was huge .5 or something or maybe I'm confused with Sachs

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Marty MOOSE View Post
                        I saw a set apart and asked a while back think it was huge .5 or something or maybe I'm confused with Sachs
                        The GG's have 0.7mm+ from Nates measurements.

                        Given the stacks that have been posted and the feedback from the OP. I would assume that the Sherco would be tighter than the GG, and the sweet spot somewhere inbetween.

                        Don't under estimate the ICS spring rate and +/- preload on feel and action as well. Really need to evaluate the setup as a whole.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Jakobi View Post
                          The GG's have 0.7mm+ from Nates measurements.

                          Given the stacks that have been posted and the feedback from the OP. I would assume that the Sherco would be tighter than the GG, and the sweet spot somewhere inbetween.

                          Don't under estimate the ICS spring rate and +/- preload on feel and action as well. Really need to evaluate the setup as a whole.
                          I got the specs from the Sherco forum, I have asked the question myself but waiting on a reply at the moment
                          Current edition : Gas Gas EC300 18' .. ringa ding ding
                          Current Ride .... Sherco - 300 SER 19' Factory


                          17' Beta 300rr ... Gone & Sold
                          Complement the Smoker ... Beta 480rr 15' .... Gone & sold
                          Beta 250rr 16' ... Gone Written Off .. Xmas Drivers
                          KTM 250 sx 2013 smoker ... Gone & Sold
                          KTM 350xcf 2014 ... Gone & sold
                          YZF 450 11'.. Enduroised ... Gone & Sold
                          Crf450r 04' ... Gone & Sold
                          CR 85 07' .. Last of the Smokers ... The daughters weapon

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jakobi View Post
                            The GG's have 0.7mm+ from Nates measurements.

                            Given the stacks that have been posted and the feedback from the OP. I would assume that the Sherco would be tighter than the GG, and the sweet spot somewhere inbetween.

                            Don't under estimate the ICS spring rate and +/- preload on feel and action as well. Really need to evaluate the setup as a whole.
                            I've played with ICS springs from 1.7-2.2 always found the softer ones to feel like mush has always been on 4st's though. Funny I rode another fella's Gasser GP on here with his revalve and his forks are softer than mine however feel harsh and horrible. Hard to compare as they are different bikes but the feeling is pretty obvious. ATM we are riding sand most of the time due to lock down can't wait to get back to the races and some loam and clay, I find if my bike needs heaps of cranking up for sand then it can be adjusted well to work in our race terrain, there are so many factors and personal preference is a major one. Do any of you guys run a light bleed stack on the 2st's or have experimented with one ?

                            Yeh I'm a little bored

                            MM

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                            • #15
                              Fair suck of the sav, there Marty! If its my bike your talking about, since my revalve, you only rode it for about a minute on a 3rd gear sand track.
                              For where we ride I think it's better than what it was, but I'll go back to a third face shim on the mid and maybe look at the base valve stack which is still std.
                              GG 2018 GP300
                              KTM 2017 350EXCF

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